From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Frustrated with Font issues Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:31:54 -0600 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401985953 18430 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2014 16:32:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 16:32:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 18:32:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsaaZ-0002HX-QU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:32:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsaaZ-0004Ls-CV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53723) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsaaO-0004LP-AR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsaaN-0005Wf-Eh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236]:33102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsaaN-0005WY-9v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:32:15 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id il7so1474953vcb.27 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:32:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=JNdI98atO/OF90LikSi4IIh4iecGQWBJ9SNbVMRxdrQ=; b=dYsF8vO53OShlBLu4kDvYCa+0GSKNshXfk5vz0iLdQMzbuUyBe45l72sAkKK1Kc2HF U3RHeGUMiaoZRWG7rKMWSlNvdYWVkBTBMUQWLJm2qNL220uA+khtpMs+Qt/LwtpfskDV eZytP2e64jKvUlj2K/vifQ0o213KLsbOHdxfMfiP4Dz2eYRkG2Gi9u2z9QCvd7+379MG R8HBc3+B7fK/CyUwgSUzDiRoO4kLCHShMdCPsHRLaau3lQf7/5p0RB15HYmIyjHzNue/ 5y1DVhVADe2Z6qNVK5bZot2LPNd1coXYt6/EDMVbw1klTNWMa1iqbbi4oZwUPUYctDVm VhMA== X-Received: by 10.58.109.71 with SMTP id hq7mr4875659veb.26.1401985934476; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.112.10 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 09:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98021 Archived-At: Hi, I am using RHEL 6.5 and am running emacs 24.3 with a GUI. The fonts look absolutely horrible, and the fonts that I have available via set-frame-font are atrocious as well. I have asked in several places about this issue, and I'm always blown off and told "blahh set something something in .Xresources", but nothing ever specific. People have said that it's an issue with X11, but I'm not convinced; every other GUI application has normal looking fonts. Even the GUI version of Vim has normal fonts; how can it be an X server or RHEL problem when every other application has a sufficient set of fonts to use? This is clearly an Emacs problem at this point. If I use emacs in the terminal without X the fonts look fine. My terminal says the font is "Monospace 10", and if I do C-u C-x = I get display: terminal code #x3B When I do C-u C-x = with GUI emacs, I get: -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-100-100-100-m-90-iso10646-1 Which is a font made available when I do M-x set-frame-font Is there not a way to allow Emacs to use the same set of fonts that every other X11 application uses? How can it be that Emacs fonts suck when other applications have normal fonts? I'm pissed off at this point. Jai