From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 17:27:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87d2bjs6us.fsf@gmail.com> <27445237-0ccd-4e09-89f9-cdb1fe57fdd6@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409434081 22872 80.91.229.3 (30 Aug 2014 21:28:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 21:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Rusi Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 23:27:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XNqBe-0001r1-V7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 23:27:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47811 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNqBe-00032N-IB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 17:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54635) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNqBS-000325-6J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 17:27:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNqBQ-0002XR-Kl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 17:27:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236]:35193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XNqBQ-0002XB-Ew for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 17:27:40 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id im17so3963586vcb.41 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 14:27:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=dR0Bp/Xme9Ou2pgjUHuYhS7BCf43K4Eo5Qj2uEY2Z7c=; b=fZgZRYpel2RiZP2wLvU4ksbHA8g65gzK7I3zA1nzPr5C3TL3hIG8fQVDv2MaZOIbZs qLm3r+rR56EE7NuACtkENF2PqzQI/wktkKUc1+c8/8cn00EVODgRiSN+Mhi9Y8app85S 0Y7buo6bF5EARIMq2LK1QmWBojBsr8Z7OG4qqMIiTAzqu+2R3qXcSH4wtfXeU/NbpIFZ y7/za7MR8Tf75B0FC/KR+smp3o0yVlj3U6ZTMQ0VnhBpKI8yN4bdScnbDp9Lk/d9CxPT E3OUc3eiOBTo34maYNkqj8WmB1SPHGWmB58OSlc5i7ECXTZBbg2zKApw71IYU8enBR1o 8Grw== X-Received: by 10.53.0.164 with SMTP id az4mr2016935vdd.52.1409434058279; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 14:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.221.24.82 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 14:27:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27445237-0ccd-4e09-89f9-cdb1fe57fdd6@googlegroups.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99540 Archived-At: It's irrelevant as to whether or not you are "anti-binary" thinking. Binary classifications exist. It's a reality your "faith" seems to have a hard-time understanding. Quoting philosophers and witch doctors also has little to do with reality, despite assisting in your faith-driven beliefs. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Rusi wrote: > On Friday, August 29, 2014 11:41:33 PM UTC+5:30, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > Dnia 2014-08-29, o godz. 13:21:12 > > Jai Dayal napisa=C5=82(a): > > > > Okay but why can people make claims like "scientists are bigots" and > > > that sort of thing... i even have someone privately emailing me from > > > here telling me all this stuff about hitler being an atheist and this > > > and that. > > > OK, being the "someone" mentioned above, let me get a few things > > straight. > > > 1. AFAIR, no one claimed that "scientists are bigots". Rusi (who was > > probably the first one to use the word "bigot") wrote then: > > > > In my experience the scientific types are more bigoted than the > > > religious ones. > > > This is something *very* different, especially in view of further > > explanations from Rusi. (An exercise for you: find three important > > differences between what you wrote and what Rusi wrote.) Please don't > > fight your straw men in public. > > I was hunting for a quote of Meister Eckhart. > Couldn't find what I wanted but found this which amused me in the context > of this thread > > | Truth is something so noble that if God could turn aside from it, I > | could keep the truth and let God go. > from http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Meister_Eckhart > > So surely Meister Eckhart is very scientific and un-religious ?? > > Marcin wrote: > > Jai Dayal napisa=C5=82(a): > > > > > How is it different? One can't be more of X without resulting in bein= g > > > partially X. One is either a bigot, or they aren't, so yes, he is > > > saying scientists are bigoted. > > > Ah! Now I get it. You seem to be reasoning in binary categories. > > Either you are a bigot or not. Either something is science or not. > > Yes that sums up what I wanted to say. > > I am not specifically pro or anti religion or science. > I am anti binary thinking. > > And Aristotle's law (even called the Law of excluded middle): > | Everything is either A or not A. > > is the same as a certain Neanderthal, twice-voted head of state's > > | Either you are with us or against us > > My quote from Nagarjuna was essentially (my) antidote to binary thinking. > > Since in sanskrit 'sat' can as much be rendered as 'truth' as 'reality' > here's my re-rendering: > > | Everything is true and is not true, > | Both true and not true, > | Neither true nor not true. > | This is 's teaching. >