Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs

[Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com>]

It's irrelevant as to whether or not you are "anti-binary" thinking. Binary
classifications exist. It's a reality your "faith" seems to have a
hard-time understanding.

Quoting philosophers and witch doctors also has little to do with reality,
despite assisting in your faith-driven beliefs.


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, August 29, 2014 11:41:33 PM UTC+5:30, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> > Dnia 2014-08-29, o godz. 13:21:12
> > Jai Dayal napisał(a):
>
> > > Okay but why can people make claims like "scientists are bigots" and
> > > that sort of thing... i even have someone privately emailing me from
> > > here telling me all this stuff about hitler being an atheist and this
> > > and that.
>
> > OK, being the "someone" mentioned above, let me get a few things
> > straight.
>
> > 1. AFAIR, no one claimed that "scientists are bigots".  Rusi (who was
> > probably the first one to use the word "bigot") wrote then:
>
> > > In my experience the scientific types are more bigoted than the
> > > religious ones.
>
> > This is something *very* different, especially in view of further
> > explanations from Rusi.  (An exercise for you: find three important
> > differences between what you wrote and what Rusi wrote.)  Please don't
> > fight your straw men in public.
>
> I was hunting for a quote of Meister Eckhart.
> Couldn't find what I wanted but found this which amused me in the context
> of this thread
>
> | Truth is something so noble that if God could turn aside from it, I
> | could keep the truth and let God go.
> from http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Meister_Eckhart
>
> So surely Meister Eckhart is very scientific and un-religious <wink>??
>
> Marcin wrote:
> > Jai Dayal <daya...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
> >
> > > How is it different? One can't be more of X without resulting in being
> > > partially X. One is either a bigot, or they aren't, so yes, he is
> > > saying scientists are bigoted.
>
> > Ah!  Now I get it.  You seem to be reasoning in binary categories.
> > Either you are a bigot or not.  Either something is science or not.
>
> Yes that sums up what I wanted to say.
>
> I am not specifically pro or anti religion or science.
> I am anti binary thinking.
>
> And Aristotle's law (even called the Law of excluded middle):
> | Everything is either A or not A.
>
> is the same as a certain Neanderthal, twice-voted head of state's
>
> | Either you are with us or against us
>
> My quote from Nagarjuna was essentially (my) antidote to binary thinking.
>
> Since in sanskrit 'sat' can as much be rendered as 'truth' as 'reality'
> here's my re-rendering:
>
> | Everything is true and is not true,
> | Both true and not true,
> | Neither true nor not true.
> | This is <insert favorite esteemable figure>'s teaching.
>