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From: Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:34:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMJ-YiS+VD=cqpbB_xTABBPPMa2-9ATTZh_Rj+tDSoFEoU_9DA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140829202748.186a6f10@aga-netbook>

Not being a genius does not make you an idiot; however, one either meets
the classification of a genius or one does not. Just because there are
binary memberships for some objects wrt classes, it does not mean all
classifications are binary. Being a bigot, however, is binary.

>And putting irony aside: *if* you claim that if someone is even *a
tiny bit* bigoted, then he can be called a bigot, could you please
tell me who is *not* a bigot?

That's not for me to decide. The statement that was made was that
scientists are *more* bigoted than religious types. How can a scientist be
more bigoted than something without being a bigot? It makes no sense.

>Rusi also said "in my
experience"

I don't see how that's relevant. "In my opinion, you are stupid" isn't
really that functionally different in layman speak to "you are stupid".

>I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of
"faith", and I wouldn't agree with it.  This closes the discussion (I
hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know).

It really isn't though. There is a difference between beliefs and
evidenced-based reasoning. Faith is *believing* something to be true 100%
regardless of the evidence.


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
wrote:

> Dnia 2014-08-29, o godz. 14:15:48
> Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>
> > How is it different? One can't be more of X without resulting in being
> > partially X. One is either a bigot, or they aren't, so yes, he is
> > saying scientists are bigoted.
>
> Ah!  Now I get it.  You seem to be reasoning in binary categories.
> Either you are a bigot or not.  Either something is science or not.
> Let me extrapolate a bit: either someone is an idiot or a genius.
> Which one are you?  (SCNR...)
>
> And putting irony aside: *if* you claim that if someone is even *a
> tiny bit* bigoted, then he can be called a bigot, could you please
> tell me who is *not* a bigot?
>
> And here's a solution to your exercise: Rusi also said "in my
> experience", which you conveniently omitted from your "quotation", and
> also he used the words "scientific types", which is not exactly the
> same as "scientists" - as you "quoted" him.
>
> And, you silently ignored my second question.  How convenient.
>
> > Faith is believing that something is true, regardless of what the
> > evidence clearly spells out. How is that not idiotic?
>
> I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of
> "faith", and I wouldn't agree with it.  This closes the discussion (I
> hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know).
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Adam Mickiewicz University
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-29 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.127014.1409321829.1146.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 14:33 ` A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Tory S. Anderson
2014-08-29 17:21   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:11     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:15       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:27       ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:34         ` Jai Dayal [this message]
2014-08-29 19:17           ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7863.1409335908.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-30  3:43       ` Rusi
2014-08-30  7:24         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-08-30 21:27         ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7951.1409434065.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-31  1:53           ` Rusi
2014-08-27  7:05 solidius4747
2014-08-27 12:48 ` Dmitriy Igrishin
2014-08-27 13:18   ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 14:15     ` Dmitriy Igrishin
     [not found]       ` <CAMd9FiKzwc1QKa3KtZPFpTGs86bupRptFqL_WwCSE3kPGARXfg@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 14:53         ` Fwd: " Tu Hoang Do
     [not found]           ` <CAAfz9KNL25WboPXG87Azd_6yVr8zrx6hNrCsmuWs6w_XTvdspQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <CAMd9FiJyjk78a-3yMatvca3qp+pr4O+GmDp03ZqFSkpAEoxhGw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-08-27 18:14               ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 18:15                 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:37                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 18:42                     ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:42                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:52                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:05                           ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 19:28                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:32                               ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:06                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 20:11                                   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:57                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 23:17                                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 23:47                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.7678.1409181490.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28  3:30                                         ` Rusi
2014-08-28  3:33                                           ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28  4:29                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.7693.1409200204.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28  5:39                                             ` Rusi
2014-08-28 12:27                                               ` Jai Dayal
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.7714.1409228889.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 15:53                                                 ` solidius4747
2014-08-28 21:22                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-28 22:24                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-28 23:28                                                       ` Dmitry
2014-08-29  0:02                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.7793.1409270604.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29  3:35                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-29  6:06                                                     ` David Engster
2014-08-29 13:09                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:16                                                         ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 13:45                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:52                                                         ` David Engster
2014-08-29 14:16                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
     [not found]                                                     ` <mailman.7808.1409292429.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-29 13:15                                                       ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:08                                                 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:13                                                   ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 19:43                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-28 19:47                                                       ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 20:15                                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.7743.1409246061.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 17:26                                                     ` Rusi
2014-08-28 23:01                                                   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-08-27 18:45                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 14:39     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7608.1409150189.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-27 15:01       ` solidius4747
2014-08-27 18:31         ` Óscar Fuentes

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