From: Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:34:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMJ-YiS+VD=cqpbB_xTABBPPMa2-9ATTZh_Rj+tDSoFEoU_9DA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140829202748.186a6f10@aga-netbook>
Not being a genius does not make you an idiot; however, one either meets
the classification of a genius or one does not. Just because there are
binary memberships for some objects wrt classes, it does not mean all
classifications are binary. Being a bigot, however, is binary.
>And putting irony aside: *if* you claim that if someone is even *a
tiny bit* bigoted, then he can be called a bigot, could you please
tell me who is *not* a bigot?
That's not for me to decide. The statement that was made was that
scientists are *more* bigoted than religious types. How can a scientist be
more bigoted than something without being a bigot? It makes no sense.
>Rusi also said "in my
experience"
I don't see how that's relevant. "In my opinion, you are stupid" isn't
really that functionally different in layman speak to "you are stupid".
>I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of
"faith", and I wouldn't agree with it. This closes the discussion (I
hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know).
It really isn't though. There is a difference between beliefs and
evidenced-based reasoning. Faith is *believing* something to be true 100%
regardless of the evidence.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
wrote:
> Dnia 2014-08-29, o godz. 14:15:48
> Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>
> > How is it different? One can't be more of X without resulting in being
> > partially X. One is either a bigot, or they aren't, so yes, he is
> > saying scientists are bigoted.
>
> Ah! Now I get it. You seem to be reasoning in binary categories.
> Either you are a bigot or not. Either something is science or not.
> Let me extrapolate a bit: either someone is an idiot or a genius.
> Which one are you? (SCNR...)
>
> And putting irony aside: *if* you claim that if someone is even *a
> tiny bit* bigoted, then he can be called a bigot, could you please
> tell me who is *not* a bigot?
>
> And here's a solution to your exercise: Rusi also said "in my
> experience", which you conveniently omitted from your "quotation", and
> also he used the words "scientific types", which is not exactly the
> same as "scientists" - as you "quoted" him.
>
> And, you silently ignored my second question. How convenient.
>
> > Faith is believing that something is true, regardless of what the
> > evidence clearly spells out. How is that not idiotic?
>
> I have to admit that it is the first time I see this definition of
> "faith", and I wouldn't agree with it. This closes the discussion (I
> hope so at least, I have some work to do, you know).
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Adam Mickiewicz University
>
>
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2014-08-29 14:33 ` A guide on setting up C/C++ development environment for Emacs Tory S. Anderson
2014-08-29 17:21 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:11 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:15 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 18:27 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-29 18:34 ` Jai Dayal [this message]
2014-08-29 19:17 ` Marcin Borkowski
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2014-08-30 3:43 ` Rusi
2014-08-30 7:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-08-30 21:27 ` Jai Dayal
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2014-08-31 1:53 ` Rusi
2014-08-27 7:05 solidius4747
2014-08-27 12:48 ` Dmitriy Igrishin
2014-08-27 13:18 ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 14:15 ` Dmitriy Igrishin
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2014-08-27 14:53 ` Fwd: " Tu Hoang Do
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2014-08-27 18:14 ` Tu Hoang Do
2014-08-27 18:15 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 18:42 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:42 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 18:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:05 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 19:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 19:32 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:06 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 20:11 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 20:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 23:17 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-27 23:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2014-08-28 3:30 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 3:33 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 4:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2014-08-28 5:39 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 12:27 ` Jai Dayal
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2014-08-28 15:53 ` solidius4747
2014-08-28 21:22 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-28 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-28 23:28 ` Dmitry
2014-08-29 0:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2014-08-29 3:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-08-29 6:06 ` David Engster
2014-08-29 13:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:16 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-29 13:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-29 13:52 ` David Engster
2014-08-29 14:16 ` Óscar Fuentes
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2014-08-29 13:15 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:08 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 17:13 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 19:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-08-28 19:47 ` Jai Dayal
2014-08-28 20:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
[not found] ` <mailman.7743.1409246061.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-28 17:26 ` Rusi
2014-08-28 23:01 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-08-27 18:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-08-27 14:39 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
[not found] ` <mailman.7608.1409150189.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-08-27 15:01 ` solidius4747
2014-08-27 18:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
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