From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 00:36:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20130505041339.GA5537@hysteria.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149cf0ca5f0d804dbf1236f X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367728654 19092 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2013 04:37:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 04:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Steven Degutis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 06:37:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqhZ-0002C8-7c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 06:37:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58319 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqhY-0006aW-Sk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39361) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqhN-0006a7-2h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqhL-0000t0-Bt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]:55535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqhL-0000sN-4q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id aq17so3115033iec.15 for ; Sat, 04 May 2013 21:37:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=W3Q1nVfWrIVP9S+wFhEYxKKFdOjOrqt7jDPkCZHXTA4=; b=SU0FJ7SxuGWnWT7jSOJncIFEx4oZDNxZJ3V5x1sM9sxTJnHzKrat9NYL7u7qncN31S g7j1dbieAUU9KdG+MPIYNDqTMP/wk7OQ0GeaPsZxHz/Dmy4zBP8rcGnyA/5+MJorpGke 6tbiKSgOvyUzW6D4wsZ5dSJRzIbCssndKdLoy4hmzsnlH8rXX5fKQKr/MpJoqEeU2E0a 1EOGUStndjNAKgV8wYASdrwcIpY6OTluibCtI+HsyRnVik99aiLHGCbe5RY1QGq6dLNr 2C0ij50/sSmfKS+dRbJfNpUkTYA1+EPMnrfICE4obhLDBCCg7YUC/Pw7pK+NndZYjn/L 6oUw== X-Received: by 10.50.80.48 with SMTP id o16mr1186315igx.94.1367728638519; Sat, 04 May 2013 21:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.50.73.102 with HTTP; Sat, 4 May 2013 21:36:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90494 Archived-At: --089e0149cf0ca5f0d804dbf1236f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The problem is that you naively assume you can compile things on your desktop that you can your remote server. For me, that's almost never the case, as no desktop or laptop has the hardware that a supercomputer has. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Steven Degutis wrote: > Any time I find myself editing files on a remote server, it's because > I stupidly didn't prepare for the task properly and have to fix > something "live". This is never a planned situation, and one I should > really be avoiding rather than catering to. And in those rare times > that I still find myself editing remote files, the server usually only > has vim anyway, which gets the job done. This isn't a legitimate > reason to have terminal support in a text editor that you use on a > daily basis on your local GUI-enabled desktop. > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Steven Degutis wrote: > >> What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor? > >> ... > >> Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text > >> editor these days. > > > > I use emacs in a terminal all of the time every day. How else are you > > going to edit files while logged into a remote server? > > > > If emacs didn't support the text terminal anymore, something that it > > has done since the beginning, then it could hardly be called emacs > > anymore could it? It would then be something different. Like > > gtk-emacs or something. Which is fine. But if emacs weren't > > available to edit files would you expect we would use vi? Horrors! > > > > Bob > > > > --089e0149cf0ca5f0d804dbf1236f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The problem is that you naively assume you can compile thi= ngs on your desktop that you can your remote server. For me, that's alm= ost never the case, as no desktop or laptop has the hardware that a superco= mputer has.


On Sun,= May 5, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com> wrote:
Any time I find myself editing files on a re= mote server, it's because
I stupidly didn't prepare for the task properly and have to fix
something "live". This is never a planned situation, and one I sh= ould
really be avoiding rather than catering to. And in those rare times
that I still find myself editing remote files, the server usually only
has vim anyway, which gets the job done. This isn't a legitimate
reason to have terminal support in a text editor that you use on a
daily basis on your local GUI-enabled desktop.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> wrote:
> Steven Degutis wrote:
>> What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as = an editor?
>> ...
>> Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode i= n a text
>> editor these days.
>
> I use emacs in a terminal all of the time every day. =A0How else are y= ou
> going to edit files while logged into a remote server?
>
> If emacs didn't support the text terminal anymore, something that = it
> has done since the beginning, then it could hardly be called emacs
> anymore could it? =A0It would then be something different. =A0Like
> gtk-emacs or something. =A0Which is fine. =A0But if emacs weren't<= br> > available to edit files would you expect we would use vi? =A0Horrors!<= br> >
> Bob
>


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