From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jai Dayal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:11:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0b72021c-139f-4269-8e81-5b5ef97fb83d@googlegroups.com> <8761yu64e4.fsf@Servus.decebal.nl> <87r4higq45.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip2tyftv.fsf@yahoo.fr> <20130508155351.GA5399@hysteria.proulx.com> <87obclrrb9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <25153223-A058-4762-A1FC-7744472B958A@Web.DE> <87obckqg7f.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k3n8qf7l.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87bo8kqe3c.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368119522 26428 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2013 17:12:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 09 19:12:01 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUNt-0007l5-0f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 19:12:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUNs-0006Lw-IN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:12:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUNF-0005l0-Sx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUNE-0008PT-Le for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ia0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c02::231]:53943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUNE-0008PN-HS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:11:20 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id z3so551777iad.8 for ; Thu, 09 May 2013 10:11:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PPbvawRAxL1fTM+958SzY9NVwwAAJpPA3IXpST1ETiM=; b=QDoFRAYojW4WmrG39dNg/OfQeOnV9wVDj1C8+gGKv7bQPMk6SJdCGApOHWijQp0JY/ fVI/QOSZ/1mNT2TRtXbtpKvQb9L3q4LwZbCHwsTEJa+unrte1pN246C14VMGeCSzdufl MMnZLSc+E/UbtYqRWhyDuLPzRwpQZFIFITFNn3/xFNYJvRL26cNRiDVNm8qUNJF/dWDV sEjjTQR59+TwxaEUd9pwA05TewQwes08Q4H1UrD4hhHIzvzbT0OCLGryDbmR3oAMzZxy mGBTgpJrLfKS21m/unQA89DtWsi8WitwTjJOQfnKHNkIUg4/dwjBLbTY5OHHDfjVqTfN 1fKQ== X-Received: by 10.50.57.19 with SMTP id e19mr7791234igq.110.1368119479982; Thu, 09 May 2013 10:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.50.73.102 with HTTP; Thu, 9 May 2013 10:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.50.73.102 with HTTP; Thu, 9 May 2013 10:11:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bo8kqe3c.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c02::231 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90595 Archived-At: Elisp is a language. Vim has a language of its own. The functionality is no different and both are Chomsky NF languages. You Re arguing keystroke usability not functionality. Every argument here has been about keystrokes, not functionality. On May 9, 2013 11:05 AM, "=D3scar Fuentes" wrote: > Jai Dayal writes: > > > Emacs mode on vim is not just basic features. > > So it can run Elisp? > > > The point is: the author (or anyone else) cannot accurately defend the > > original statement, thus the original author should be banned for > > deliberately spreading false information. > > The information benefited Emacs over Vim, so the original author > deserves praise on this mailing list, not being the accuracy of the > information a relevant consideration. > > OTOH, you can ban him on the vim mailing lists (again, not being the > accuracy of the information a relevant consideration.) > > > For the record, I do not use Vim. > > Ah, you are the famed editor flamewar fairness masked vigilante. > > :-) > > >