From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Le Wang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 11:58:59 +0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e012297ca979e9604dbf09ab1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367726355 3008 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2013 03:59:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 03:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Steven Degutis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 05:59:14 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYq6U-0006FZ-8M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 05:59:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYq6T-0006A0-VW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 May 2013 23:59:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYq6H-00068z-5y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 May 2013 23:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYq6G-0008P2-5u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 May 2013 23:59:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]:58100) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYq6F-0008NW-VK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 May 2013 23:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hm14so1647998wib.17 for ; Sat, 04 May 2013 20:58:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bxkVCVQIQhyr8u+TQnldFb+c29bdo52wvDLjw2GXq+w=; b=GcLWXpAX+Yw0/v0ymjPDgLnu+5KonFg3YYcf5bRVkjh/QKoLzbCxXm8I3s+Z12jMKI 3B1I67Xlfkw/ZJEANxBdBFPq217JefmSizTDKMkURshTz3+xj+UlyRK5g995T/jFs8f2 Nbimp5FI4f2hL+9xOCYl0bsVh4WWlu98gUEMqJhXQMurqjhxmx9cm2/yGpRRB9D1rgUz Znn9MfDFTrYwSVpG0VcdPlGDFNjPFnigEoZm0cKr5iR8XJ9nnZYne87BTm3ueV8poUy6 kSfENYla7tPv6j1bIaTWswjowEh58EF990tsTZjOWu4juLbBRBqnHYDu40RBLfT0xLxh 1R5w== X-Received: by 10.194.133.130 with SMTP id pc2mr19930228wjb.35.1367726339102; Sat, 04 May 2013 20:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.217.116.8 with HTTP; Sat, 4 May 2013 20:58:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90485 Archived-At: --089e012297ca979e9604dbf09ab1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The cool kids do it. You can find many screencasts of people doing everything in terminal and proselytising the simplicity and lack of distractions of such a work flow. They don't mention the lack of features, and the pitfalls. As a result a lot of the newbie questions on stackoverflow and here are "Why dozn't M-return work with me Emacs?" and "How comez when I can't cut'n'paste from Emacs?". This is frustratingly detrimental to Emacs adoption because the new user's initial experience with Emacs is "fixing" it. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Steven Degutis wrote: > What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor? > > For me it's rather the other way around, I use the terminal within my > editor (eshell). > > Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text > editor these days. > > -Steven > > -- Le --089e012297ca979e9604dbf09ab1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The cool kids do it.

You can find= many screencasts of people doing everything in terminal and=A0proselytisin= g=A0the simplicity and lack of distractions of such a work flow. =A0They do= n't mention the lack of features, and the pitfalls.

As a result a lot of the newbie questions o= n stackoverflow and here are "Why dozn't M-return work with me Ema= cs?" and "How comez when I can't cut'n'paste from Ema= cs?".

This is frustratingly detrimental to Emacs = adoption because the new user's initial experience with Emacs is "= fixing" it.


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Steven Degutis <sbdegutis@gmail.com= > wrote:
What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor= ?

For me it's rather the other way around, I use the terminal within my editor (eshell).

Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text<= br> editor these days.

-Steven




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