From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Le Wang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fix for bug 10994 breaks ido customizations in major way Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:35:58 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87txmfyb9n.fsf@gmail.com> <432AFE3B3321498E9B17075D3B55A60B@us.oracle.com> <87y5bqty1w.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqrar2g9.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367973366 32509 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2013 00:36:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 00:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Liu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 08 02:36:05 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UZsMX-0001fw-6C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 May 2013 02:36:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZsMW-0003L0-Qs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59531) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZsMT-0003Kp-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZsMS-0000EW-8y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]:39143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UZsMS-0000ED-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m6so4424762wiv.1 for ; Tue, 07 May 2013 17:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uAWaV/nR9D+mbcGSQv7ve0buSOoB4LTIm8OiP1PMtpw=; b=Cat1xbHRkDkFyyuzn1i+KRAK8V0rs31SvW8RxGYBhIksr0STJZSzmoRvl0bh+CmY05 mA4KXGMvAkLpNv1ZJk6fTM3seD6YdA6K8tdxicdMXC5+IhCRQtrSEK2VPF5hhw1jVe7E J72qw7ZbkxtwObr4VE7lFscwPeZkGh6tDha27nCaZ9rhNF94HpvVllYH11Kw3Rro9ibT CV3UK493+S8bBfrX8b3QZVZcjVLrBITDCDUsyDQ0C/YMJQhG4jkcr3PXim+Lm0yQowNm fPyw+rbxnUFqwbVOUZHTFJEEhEL4UT/aTmS/WsW5Fb8YviDGIhkW2/TSFGQ1Mr6nLO9P 3X4Q== X-Received: by 10.195.13.75 with SMTP id ew11mr6787735wjd.25.1367973358900; Tue, 07 May 2013 17:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.217.116.8 with HTTP; Tue, 7 May 2013 17:35:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159415 Archived-At: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Leo Liu wrote: > On 2013-05-08 03:53 +0800, =D3scar Fuentes wrote: >> You are inconveniencing a real (and quite useulf, IMHO) application beca= use >> some imaginary, unspecified application? >> >> And, have you considered that there are users who don't see any coloring >> on Emacs? (because the limitations of their terminals, or because they >> are using voice-to-speach systems, or simply because they regard >> anything but raw text as distracting noise.) > > When I was coming up with a fix for bug#10994 I have already considered > removing duplicates as an option. But I rejected it on the basis of that > being the responsibility of the caller `completing-read' already removes duplicates. `ido-completing-read' should just follow its lead. > and do not want to take that away > from the programmers. I want to reiterate this was never "given" to programmers in a released version of ido. > Anyway, I'll see if I can bake these two options in. Baking these two in is not necessary at all! Think about =D3scar Fuentes's scenario of someone being completely color blind. Why are we going out of our way to make the UI bad for these people? -- Le