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From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com>
To: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>,  emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Unboxed package manager
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 10:31:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM=F=bDttt1mVLR5fYbkdELK3ik_HoQ0Q7VMW=7yY38xjdF2jQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lejprq6e.fsf@bernoul.li>

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 7:17 AM Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li> wrote:

> Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > It seems like a method for
> > compiling sexpr-type representations of sql queries into statements
> > usable with the builtin support would still be useful, and not limited
> > in the same way - since the returned values do not require serializing
> > as text by the sqlite shell then parsing them in Elisp.
>
> Of course "SQL as vectors" and "store everything as a string" are not
> tied to each other per se, but with EmacSQL you get both.
>

The whole SQL as vectors conceit isn't something I've given a lot of
thought to. As long as it's a syntax tree and not a pile of strings.
Vectors or conses - both can be analyzed by pcase, so I start at a point of
indifference.


> > [ Digression...]
> > Just looking at the src/sqlite.c in master, as there is no other
> > documentation of the sqlite support I can see, only a simplified form
> > of the core API is supported - not unreasonable for an initial
> > release.  The only noticeable absence I see, based on a cursory review
> > of the sqlite3 API spec, is that a select query cannot be reset.
> > Maybe because each db connection is associated with at most one
> > prepared statement at a time by the design of the Lisp_Sqlite
> > pseudovector?
> >
> > Other than that, I note that rows are returned as lists rather than
> > arrays, which makes the semantics more incompatible with emacsql than
> > it really has to be.  Can that be changed before 29 is released?
>
> Why is that a problem?  What would we gain if the DSL and the output
> both used vectors or both lists?
>

It's not the SQL expressions I'm concerned about.  I'm just thinking of the
existing sql-using code base expects rows to be represented with arrays,
why add the cost of remarshalling them from lists?

It just seems like a gratuitous incompatibility to me, unless there's a
strong reason to prefer lists. I have no other reason to prefer either
representation.  The die is cast now, anyway.

Lynn

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-22 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20  1:18 Unboxed package manager Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20  6:30 ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-20  8:55   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20  9:09     ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20 15:25       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-20 16:12         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20 16:53           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-20 18:11           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-03-21  1:40             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-22 11:17               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-03-22 14:31                 ` Lynn Winebarger [this message]
2023-03-22 23:39                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-21 19:06         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-21 19:10           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-21 19:57             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-21 20:06               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-21  0:23       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21  0:25         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21  1:55           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-21 10:36             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-21 10:52               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21 13:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-21 13:33                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21 14:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-21 14:20                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21 17:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-22  0:48                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-22 14:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-22 22:22                               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-23  6:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-23 13:30                                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-24 17:54                                     ` chad
2023-03-26  1:51                                       ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-23  1:44                               ` David Masterson
2023-03-23  7:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-22  7:29                           ` tomas

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