From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lynn Winebarger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where is sr-speedbar.el upstream repo? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291874 Archived-At: --000000000000aaa72005e311bc91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 11:57 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm curious why is that happens. What are the responsibilities for > > a maintainer > > Nobody can sue the maintainer for not doing its job, so in terms of real > responsibilities there aren't any, but in terms of what's expected, it's > mostly to be responsive and to care about the package. > I'm curious about why the same-frame functionality hasn't been absorbed into the speedbar package itself. The appearance of a "project explorer" that doesn't "dock" in the project frame has always been a jarring disconnect from the way other IDEs implement this idiom for me. --000000000000aaa72005e311bc91 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 11:57 AM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wro= te:
> I'm curious why is tha= t happens. What are the responsibilities for
> a maintainer

Nobody can sue the maintainer for not doing its job, so in terms of real responsibilities there aren't any, but in terms of what's expected,= it's
mostly to be responsive and to care about the package.

I'm curious about why t= he same-frame functionality hasn't been absorbed into the speedbar pack= age itself.=C2=A0 The appearance of a "project explorer" that doe= sn't "dock" in the project frame has always been a jarring di= sconnect from the way other IDEs implement this idiom for me.

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