From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bozhidar Batsov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:51:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> <87mwkgb74k.fsf@yandex.ru> <52A02473.8090005@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01229a06c5e42504ecc5a13a X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386233482 26974 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2013 08:51:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom , Andrew Hyatt , emacs-devel , Stefan Monnier , Dmitry Gutov To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 09:51:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VoUec-0000LU-GT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 09:51:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52361 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoUeb-00085Q-TO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:51:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54219) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoUeX-00084D-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:51:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoUeQ-0006Z5-Id for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:51:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234]:54523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoUeQ-0006Z0-CI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wo20so17497104obc.11 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:51:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5Ed6L5w32lEB4/eGsbThINA9kw9NlRSE6QEngtR6RI4=; b=jVLEh4iAo2y4RURhxu+ES7El/qym6RozaTBHhmYfcZf+rWknWtWOmjgDJUzqcg6HMf +12JL2Qe47gUwfqbeK3umTrvWYItSrepubx4j7CPFwyRZhg3JCMPbsEquSitfDoBI+bI Ip+tS+UfSMGm05JEEMGrNS32sbcoefK+cz49I3AacoWaAB2xC8t4AhXH5Ce/hDPJi2/K K80pzaqj1zEi7Ouayn+ehOxJsgm8Zi/0ND3zG8NjE96ebcGyZ6gaWirAcsy4n8q/Ygge VZZ2RzsPiqZY3RqMuWTN+B6ZEO40GHVQesjiS18TgSyN5DLjK+3ScJbE4lWgeHlihKRw /P7Q== X-Received: by 10.182.112.130 with SMTP id iq2mr322368obb.57.1386233473648; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:51:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.76.130.103 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 00:51:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52A02473.8090005@gmx.at> X-Google-Sender-Auth: H-Axh54gin4IP4AOv6U8FWlELpA X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166110 Archived-At: --089e01229a06c5e42504ecc5a13a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 5 December 2013 09:00, martin rudalics wrote: > >>>> show-paren-mode > >> Too much in your face for me. It doesn't seem to be that popular. > > > > It's rather popular, actually. And IMHO, it's much less annoying and > > confusing than the cursor-jumping behavior of blink-matching-paren, > > which is enabled by default now. > > `blink-matching-paren' never ceases to horrify me when I have to use > emacs -Q. I'd strongly prefer having `show-paren-mode' (or nothing) > instead. > > +1 - I don't think we need show-paren-mode enabled by default that much, but we definitely need to disable the horrible `blink-matching-paren'. > > >>>> winner-mode > >> I could go along with that. > > > > +1. Whenever the window-handling code does something different from what > > I'd expect, winner-mode saves the day. > > Whenever it happens again do not hesitate to file a complaint here, too. > > martin > --089e01229a06c5e42504ecc5a13a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 5= December 2013 09:00, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> wrote:=
>>>> show-paren-mode
>> Too much in your face for me. =C2=A0It doesn't seem to be that= popular.
>
> It's rather popular, actually. And IMHO, it's much less annoyi= ng and
> confusing than the cursor-jumping behavior of blink-matching-paren, > which is enabled by default now.

`blink-matching-paren' never ceases to horrify me when I have to use emacs -Q. =C2=A0I'd strongly prefer having `show-paren-mode' (or no= thing)
instead.


+1 - I= don't think we need show-paren-mode enabled by default that much, but = we definitely need to disable
the horrible `blink-matching-paren&= #39;.
=C2=A0

>>>> winner-mode
>> I could go along with that.
>
> +1. Whenever the window-handling code does something different from wh= at
> I'd expect, winner-mode saves the day.

Whenever it happens again do not hesitate to file a complaint here, too.

martin

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