From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bozhidar Batsov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Require Emacs >=24.3 for next Org versions? Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:38:46 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87mvxtdjkn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141c9564e11d3051d6719ad X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439703557 27795 80.91.229.3 (16 Aug 2015 05:39:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 05:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bastien Guerry , emacs-devel To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 16 07:39:07 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQqew-000876-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 07:39:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51535 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQqev-0003zl-PH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 01:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45479) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQqei-0003zb-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 01:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQqeh-0003k9-Lg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 01:38:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]:36007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQqed-0003jd-RL; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 01:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: by iodv127 with SMTP id v127so105199200iod.3; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:38:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UN556BdfLVdjFaz/Qi/3LKeku/whWGU0HiwyudROF24=; b=W3Q1Z2Can+hSWhEVWXuQqY2Tp0Mii66wAB4k3dq6+BQaMRbonAY/Cf7jzcXlKG5J0h 9Ndt1q1To+uCcB3K6UPGQg7taLA/fguk9eoxYL+M+cKKVYdvS/HKjiKGqZeko0Tfs3eT tmz9TiXUVoyBbMSx/3u5/AH0CDzCAmZtpqu/IzFHi9qovCy/7ktEv0nGkr5PD9vbtFGl 5twju4DorDjuY3U9qqhez7ZqLOvljP5zRouXqpoQpVc5R4bEgsp95yYI9blToj0Dj2zd 4Mb5k8DfOAVsv8UTWPQJ0LDY2z3+STtZ2HckdcN3XdVv+BMRbjimo6eb/nF1S6eIRmXj 992Q== X-Received: by 10.107.164.103 with SMTP id n100mr41566571ioe.123.1439703526934; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.107.41.205 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:38:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8-5maR5Vk4tdoxxWoPF6cJnC-84 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188811 Archived-At: --001a1141c9564e11d3051d6719ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Many popular packages already require recent versions of Emacs, so this sounds pretty reasonable to me. Upgrading Emacs is trivial on all platforms and we need to drive forward progress. If someone doesn't want to update Emacs they'll probably be fine with using an older version of org as well. On 16 August 2015 at 02:01, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Emacs 23 was current just a few years ago. Please don't rush to > desupport it. It is ok of the Org mode included in the current Emacs > does not work in any other version, but when you distribute something > separately, you should respect people that don't update often. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) > Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. > > > --001a1141c9564e11d3051d6719ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many popular packages already require recent versions of E= macs, so this sounds pretty reasonable to me.=C2=A0
Upgrading Emacs is = trivial on all platforms and we need to drive forward progress. If someone = doesn't want to update Emacs they'll probably be fine with
using an older version of org as well.

On 16 August 2015 at 02:01, Richard Stal= lman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
[[[ To= any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]<= br> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
Emacs 23 was current just a few years ago.=C2=A0 Please don't rush to desupport it.=C2=A0 It is ok of the Org mode included in the current Emacs<= br> does not work in any other version, but when you distribute something
separately, you should respect people that don't update often.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.



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