From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Hyatt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for removing obsolete packages Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:47:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87oacnwyg6.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114405c6c566e30529a02f61 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453142885 13810 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2016 18:48:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 18 19:47:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLEqI-0006my-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:47:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33186 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLEqI-0005Li-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:47:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48607) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLEq4-0005LS-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:47:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLEq3-00046C-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:47:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::233]:35243) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLEq1-00045z-Cl; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:47:37 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id k1so336041574vkb.2; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:47:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DUUGO08i1MRe0Gtn0E+xu9gIfhptbA0CKLahry17xBE=; b=fpltciWFtAgSxzazmndLZJ1EIhRQLOXnJDZZpLOtvP6kc2wbc2BpMSP+DvKbXZMrYh eiOKZ5eDHtW58TrhqWwqS7nhko9iTE0Ev1KStczJPlXWcBaDhGQMsG+PFAzzb13Xc45i g4qWHUtcIHXtA09q8eP/NUuhabquF6ete+JPHLQ8+QC/8WcMG84bzXlr7iviuXUasEDe j+EJDxk3z6IpdhVZaqfYV7eK2tk6SE2bLj6L6QJ3RBO6cbh+S/WvpFzT0acK9GeNr9ZH NZBAjH5ezLPloJOk+xWmVUHPj3ePVR9IbMGtHY0WdKmryGywGswvrLfwyu0/ftQUY/vp MOUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=DUUGO08i1MRe0Gtn0E+xu9gIfhptbA0CKLahry17xBE=; b=jbZWJll8JyLf082PmAg1L47KywVRsNvnh8XCfK201qCHhzw+YOK3n+JkOcAKC8k1IO f7ApUCLC9Ot9D8lbTLKR/czPIgAuqHow8y4keTnlqo9LQUoinrewt0jmFMPfJvA9iy8G //v1CpFe8L+PtHFH0Nk/s0XGkbD+CHTYC3Z7CG5Zxg93dFFb7+x0jsdA1xYGQjnBeBB1 PMRPq5OlTZWdX0W9lW8xTSY83YdaVkLoB47ywHj7WSLhYu4I72H/q3Bga5DDIC07gHg8 PelXMeLZDXpoYvvjN8m3fsPPfKMWXwGBX7n5SQI7pQJU3e6vXfYvfTQLwROXCo5ABk5H PysQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm9Ox/cInKcQTjKmJAHz0v0UIPaehldNDDokvufTanhZ/m/Lf4AEnR37l1bKahTrABijdG1cFyrgpGvb4f7bCqAcEHOjw== X-Received: by 10.31.58.74 with SMTP id h71mr18115469vka.149.1453142856523; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:47:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198268 Archived-At: --001a114405c6c566e30529a02f61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:10 AM Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > "Deprecated" is neither weaker nor stronger than "obsolete". Rather, > they are different in quality. > > "Obsolete" means "This was useful before, but not now, since the > context has changed." "Deprecated" means "We disapprove of this." > Sounds like it might not make sense to transition from deprecated to obsolete then. Given the state of the discussion, I can write this up somewhere in the source - maybe a README in the osbsolete dir, or a note somewhere in admin dir? If anyone has any advice on where would be good, let me know. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) > Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. > > --001a114405c6c566e30529a02f61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jan 16= , 2016 at 11:10 AM Richard Stallman <rms@= gnu.org> wrote:
[[[ To any N= SA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
"Deprecated" is neither weaker nor stronger than "obsolete&q= uot;.=C2=A0 Rather,
they are different in quality.

"Obsolete" means "This was useful before, but not now, since= the
context has changed."=C2=A0 "Deprecated" means "We disa= pprove of this."

Sounds like it mi= ght not make sense to transition from deprecated to obsolete then.

Given the state of the discussion, I can write this up som= ewhere in the source - maybe a README in the osbsolete dir, or a note somew= here in admin dir?=C2=A0 If anyone has any advice on where would be good, l= et me know.
=C2=A0

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.

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