From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrew Hyatt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1452: Acknowledgement (23.0.60; Problem with nextstep, longlines-mode,) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 21:12:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20081129.145347.35808910.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <20081129.155222.124907962.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <20081129.161126.71259916.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <5vy4c46ifr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83oacz5188.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143fae0fa61f405289cb11f X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452028402 3480 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2016 21:13:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hanche@math.ntnu.no, 1452@debbugs.gnu.org To: John Wiegley , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 22:13:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYul-0001IL-Qm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 22:13:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51474 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuk-00076j-Rs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:13:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuf-00076B-KO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:13:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuc-0004QF-7k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:13:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:50993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuc-0004Q6-4z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuc-0002Sb-15 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Andrew Hyatt Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 21:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1452 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 1452-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1452.14520283569424 (code B ref 1452); Tue, 05 Jan 2016 21:13:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1452) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2016 21:12:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuC-0002Rw-Gl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:12:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:36469) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aGYuB-0002Rk-06 for 1452@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:12:35 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f2so234211202vkb.3 for <1452@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:12:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Y0RbMqeGryXiQK1CK8I9WrxpsXK+G6/ZpqwSXvSw3HE=; b=E+aK/xLmGNglTfoy2yhCwMi6GbfUIu1TJfjB8celvSHEamnYRPiihKyCB7Uv4VpWzm bhXWDcuID9qz02MpfpoGWZtSsCLIbFJ55Tm/v+rjzcL6rhe0oOrRylAyN4Ju9WJbmN1E RnUgMZX45OzVrmIcFOOVO5QIzswcQgwDhhF3S5ndOffnwr5uaI8Urb3BQbwKxwUwtgjm sDdfwqpbfiU2fW1eyg03g909pHZPVzDYTpSRuCW4wfYbQrvRwMDD0HI4ix0RITL7Z7kX iJoCnoO90TbVtAw+VPeA5iF0Lgm6KzByafn55BnpTKKliLWet/K96DhdRtStDgga5/3c kHGQ== X-Received: by 10.31.47.200 with SMTP id v191mr70121984vkv.116.1452028349536; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 13:12:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111270 Archived-At: --001a1143fae0fa61f405289cb11f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:38 PM John Wiegley wrote: > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> It's in lisp/obsolete/. > >> Eli thinks such things should still be fixed: > > > Unless the fix is complicated or risky or... > > If people want to fix bugs in lisp/obselete, they are free to do so because > (a) the bug is open and (b) the code still exists in the distribution. Once > the code is gone, we can close the bug as no longer pertaining to Emacs. > Has anyone considered putting these obsolete packages in the gnu ELPA? I'm not sure about the bug policy, but I'd guess that bugs shouldn't be filed against ELPA packages. > > Until that time, don't feel an obligation to fix bugs in obsolete code that > you aren't interested in fixing. There are higher priorities to address. > Perhaps we can lower the priority of these kinds of bug in that case to the minimum, so it doesn't show up in the default list for debbugs? > > What this discussion objected to (as I read it) was establishing a policy > of > ignoring bugs in obsolete code. > > -- > John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F > http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 > --001a1143fae0fa61f405289cb11f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jan 5,= 2016 at 3:38 PM John Wiegley <jwi= egley@gmail.com> wrote:
>= >>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> It's in lisp/obsolete/.
>> Eli thinks such things should still be fixed:

> Unless the fix is complicated or risky or...

If people want to fix bugs in lisp/obselete, they are free to do so because=
(a) the bug is open and (b) the code still exists in the distribution. Once=
the code is gone, we can close the bug as no longer pertaining to Emacs.

Has anyone considered putting these obsol= ete packages in the gnu ELPA?=C2=A0 I'm not sure about the bug policy, = but I'd guess that bugs shouldn't be filed against ELPA packages.
=C2=A0

Until that time, don't feel an obligation to fix bugs in obsolete code = that
you aren't interested in fixing. There are higher priorities to address= .

Perhaps we can lower the priority of = these kinds of bug in that case to the minimum, so it doesn't show up i= n the default list for debbugs?
=C2=A0

What this discussion objected to (as I read it) was establishing a policy o= f
ignoring bugs in obsolete code.

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