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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master c75eb10: Don't change byte-compile-delete-errors at runtime (Bug#27340)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 10:36:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM-tV-_OuF+5-xu6nbTZrG5==jPWz_VPq213njpZjJ+PiMqmXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8tkhbh3a.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org>

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>     * lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-core.el: Confine `cl-declaim' calls to compile
>>     time.
> [...]
>> -  (cl-declaim (optimize (safety 0)))
>> +  (eval-when-compile (cl-declaim (optimize (safety 0))))
>
> I'd argue that cl-declaim should have no effect when interpreted, just
> like (defvar foo).  At least, that's how I understand the difference
> between CommonLisp proclaim and declaim.

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/Groups/AI/html/cltl/clm/node104.html (bottom of
page) says:

    declaim {decl-spec}*

    This macro is syntactically like declare and semantically like
    proclaim. It is an executable form and may be used anywhere
    proclaim may be called. However, each decl-spec is not evaluated.

    If a call to this macro appears at top level in a file being
    processed by the file compiler, the proclamations are also made at
    compile time.

Which suggests that declaim's effects are a superset of proclaim's
effects. But then it also says

    As with other defining macros, it is unspecified whether or not
    the compile-time side effects of a declaim persist after the file
    has been compiled

So I guess we could drop the effects at runtime?



  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-24 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170624141528.514.4459@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20170624141530.443C5210EB@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2017-06-24 14:26   ` [Emacs-diffs] master c75eb10: Don't change byte-compile-delete-errors at runtime (Bug#27340) Stefan Monnier
2017-06-24 14:36     ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2017-06-25 19:34       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29  2:04         ` Noam Postavsky
2017-06-29 11:46           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29 19:25         ` Johan Bockgård
2017-06-29 19:46           ` Noam Postavsky
2017-06-29 20:09             ` Johan Bockgård
2017-06-29 20:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29 22:11                 ` Johan Bockgård
2017-06-30  6:06                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-01  8:59                     ` Johan Bockgård
2017-07-01 14:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29 20:52           ` Stefan Monnier

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