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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: semantics of thread-signal (WAS: Crashing the new thread code)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:16:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM-tV-9q_9pZuH4VQ0EeJ4NX1fudy9cZWepu9vrn7koN7U--YA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:
>> I would expect the thread to receive the signal as soon as it starts
>> running again.
>
> I'm not sure what the semantics of signal-thread is supposed to be.

I'm not sure either, my expectations are shaped by experience with
non-Emacs thread code.

>  The manual says:
>
>     ‘thread-signal’ will cause a thread to exit a call to ‘mutex-lock’,
>     ‘condition-wait’, or ‘thread-join’.
>
> I assumed this to mean that the condition will only be delivered when
> one of these functions is called, but your comment seems to imply that
> it's meant to deliver the condition as soon as possible.

My interpretation is that mutex-lock (and the others) block the thread
until something happens (e.g., another thread calls mutex-unlock), and
thread-signal is another thing which can end the blocking (and also
trigger a signal when the thread next runs).

>
> Which makes sense, but gives a whole new flavour to using unwind-protect
> now that conditions can be signalled asynchronously.
>
> (Aside: I'm actually not quite sure in that case that unwind-protect can
> be used safely at all.  What happens if a condition is signalled during
> the cleanup?  Say:
>
>     (let ((foo nil))
>       (unwind-protect
>            (progn
>              (setq foo (make-foo))
>              (do-stuff-with foo))
>         (when foo (destroy-foo foo))))
>
> if a condition is signalled just before the cleanup but after exiting
> the body, will we leak a foo?  End of aside.)

This can't happen, because thread are cooperative. i.e., only one
thread runs at a time.



             reply	other threads:[~2016-12-12  0:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-12  0:16 Noam Postavsky [this message]
2016-12-12  1:21 ` semantics of thread-signal Juliusz Chroboczek
2016-12-12  2:06   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-12-12 16:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-13  2:46       ` Noam Postavsky
2016-12-12  3:33   ` Eli Zaretskii

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