From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Change_terminology_to_better_align_users=E2=80=99_expe?= =?UTF-8?Q?rience_with_modern_GUIs?= Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:38:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <58E90D68-5CE4-425F-BB5F-07533665ADC0@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="132898"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list To: =?UTF-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 23 13:38:51 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hpt87-000YTg-8w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 13:38:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpt85-0008Ce-SE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57017) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hpt82-0008C9-BB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpt81-0004nx-DC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:38:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x32c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c]:41198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hpt81-0004nh-82 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 07:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id o101so43665794ota.8 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:38:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s2MC8aLAHfUsAV/ro2pv981fflaN+B3EG0PM759J02k=; b=MkcoNenCjSBThkUOnk4UEvIb+jdger55TxKzJr3dqx8zP94X5Pn5lJduQw7fX1zRaG LIeUCTXGFNsgn+9LL2aXdLw/xNAdeYeth+n2Ilu1cgu1+cUDogDCqfq0JuZBfnVw1bz3 49QyScAlN4vStEDq+APCCdZubtjejSv9xCf24gCRBp2U3tigsfOCpLu/uC4ep0z16jjl W7kJjF2f/kGiK70Beae8a897Jl3HoyO8TpSRYwQ4yKlTpvfzET0sD4O1G5ydfUWwkOol K45sOoeL1fYIkxSxPrrwyyZsq7LCmE+U2SjQWWpjg3px1mz2nGWr61KRbXChmF3HkQcK qPwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s2MC8aLAHfUsAV/ro2pv981fflaN+B3EG0PM759J02k=; b=GbCOqzzXkOveBSL5I1p6sFdWEbYmjzBkcs/00VdSmLOWMj9+lYhNJRnyI6cYXCp1Wh X5FXRKS9XEN+2ySgX2Vd5YcBKCKFRfpe7qcJ8RHekDWVDIROpiXmlbKfHTV+XZcU8pTt cms1dKKm1N6AaviZVXinbB1xhk3aLIV9EhHFPsO7oR+JFgnV67sCEuiEgQ/mrfgr447Z VB0nsYC2LgILIOTTg9tOQIkzBKXkuuHuFqVBsVItitew/ZvBdY/Ml6BN9gXEPTdgEcIc l2hyFcEhh4dJ8Z7P4Zf6ZsiAXdjtFMK0/J1V/YM/D8iV8MOaMkGf9zdePC+ue/gHxe9u FsmA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW3EU5fBrJgD33hfV2z9Zvdlgjn0+X8nceCTrP2nnndJta9aAi/ on9ElOrN4UOsHeF4PJ5xbpOZGhJFmho445zkS+w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx711NWysj0UoCUNxqtmnBzhA3odqmlBJQw24yp8pniMb9W4F3nKnVHte2qMkkyUfU19rRkjGzaD/uardWudhA= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:460d:: with SMTP id y13mr35290512ote.368.1563881924613; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 04:38:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <58E90D68-5CE4-425F-BB5F-07533665ADC0@icloud.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121235 Archived-At: On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 02:46, =EC=A1=B0=EC=84=B1=EB=B9=88 wrote: > IMO in my ideal world, there should be no division between `window' and `= buffer', the difference should be abstracted away so that users don=E2=80= =99t have to know the `window' notion at all. I don't see how that would even be possible. > Changing the `window' term to `pane' or something else seems like a low-h= anging fruit for people who would like to try using Emacs; I=E2=80=99m inte= rested/curious on other people=E2=80=99s opinions about this. This could be helpful, but there are a *lot* of function names using 'window'. That means adding a lot of aliases for backwards compatibility.