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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:210548 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:28:22 -0500 >> >> >> Also, does autoloading work for macros? >> > >> > It doesn't, but why would macros be a problem? They need to be seen >> > by the byte compiler when it compiles the package, not when the >> > package is loaded. Why do we think autoloading doesn't work for macros? autoload is a built-in function in `C source code'. (autoload FUNCTION FILE &optional DOCSTRING INTERACTIVE TYPE) [...] Fifth arg TYPE indicates the type of the object: [...] `macro' or t says FUNCTION is really a macro. >> >> Right; but won't we have a problem when package.el compiles newly downlo= aded packages that depend on formerly autoloaded libraries? > > I don't know. Maybe. Determining this would be part of the job of > exploring this alternative. >