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Variable initial-environment incorrectly set > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:56:44 +0200 > > My idea to get a read-only "inherited environment" is: > 1) To save the "inherited environment" early in "c-code" at start up of > Emacs > 2) Implement a lisp function which can return the saved "inherited > environment". > > The new read-only "inherited environment" can then later be used to start > external processes with a more "transparent" environment. > To start to change the current handling of the variable initial-environment > is probably difficult and error prone. > I read this as a feature request to let lisp programs be able to see the environment from before Emacs startup routines have changed it. I have an additional use case for this: in magit it would be useful to see if the user has HOME or if they just let Emacs choose a default value for it. In the latter case, I would pop up a warning to tell them not to do that because git chooses a different default value HOME, and having disagreement causes confusion (of the "why does X work from command line and not in magit?" variety).