From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Wiesner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: maintain flymake.el Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:57:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87a9gdzx63.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <8738lsq32g.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387213049 19114 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2013 16:57:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 16:57:29 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 16 17:57:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VsbU8-0004Bm-No for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:57:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57083 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsbU8-0006T1-EQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsbU4-0006St-Qo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:57:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsbU0-0000le-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:57:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]:64063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsbTz-0000lC-V0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:57:28 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id ii20so1722739qab.9 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:57:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FO2XQbJWly5rK5MNAmJrYr4GX+CwsIMAuM+1h8JI7vQ=; b=I35PBUgyS3x1ROlaNJSL9reck5eq46fchNB+jLIq71Pwp1h7cYfAPHhVBOyHGCXne4 R5i8hyk+CsOda8bkLIhwjXFdl1wer6pLyQwUq65lNYJexhVaGDP70x5ZcK7Yt2zFxCnc /1PpUli1DrM2X1uLsCxAC8kciFQDBdPNVjsB1SUCsAB+1AEF+3+GSKZR2LNh7o1EKKHj gbSVql2uXfPiBIfcnYwvfbERSiksIPT8mgCgzfZTowKVOxKb7/dhIHyQNr3//7kKrsM9 nsdPc+ipqO72cUBkw1I4vmzba9evQ99aIBEYtx9Gcw9sZ1fUaD0uAhbxH2GXTd4hlayv GLJQ== X-Received: by 10.224.168.13 with SMTP id s13mr33943535qay.18.1387213047410; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:57:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.224.207.73 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:57:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8738lsq32g.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166487 Archived-At: 2013/12/16 Ted Zlatanov : > On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:31:46 +0100 Sebastian Wiesner wrote: > > SW> 2013/12/14 Sebastian Wiesner : >>> I hope to finish the document by tomorrow evening, and will come back >>> if it's done. > > SW> I have completed the document now. The final version is to be found > SW> at https://github.com/flycheck/flycheck/wiki/Flycheck-versus-Flymake. > SW> It's a thorough write-up of the differences and similarities between > SW> Flycheck and Flymake, and probably also a comprehensive summary of the > SW> current issues and weaknesses in Flymake. > > SW> Again, it's probably unfairly biased towards Flycheck. I tried my > SW> best to be neutral, but I consider Flycheck superior and think that > SW> the design and implementation of Flymake are somewhat broken, so I may > SW> have failed to properly account for Flymake's features and strengths. > SW> Please excuse this, and feel free to correct any mistakes I may have > SW> made. > > SW> Please also suggest improvements, such as additional aspects which > SW> should be covered, or report issues, such as missing details in the > SW> comparsion. > > I thought it was a thorough comparison. I'll let Leo, if he's willing, > answer any items. > > We can't put Flycheck in Emacs as it stands, too many contributors > without copyright assignments. If precedent holds, I would expect the > Emacs project to continue endorsing Flymake despite its shortcomings > because of the licensing. Would you consider doing the necessary work > to make Flycheck part of Emacs? I was afraid that you would ask this, and I am sorry to say that I won't. I do not intend to contribute to Emacs, and am not willing to sign a copyright assignment. Sorry