From: Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 14704@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:40:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALf2awRdfeOU-4K2+7JgrJ=jw52=_2vgfpmOzSAn3m828MWQQA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bo6vjrx1.fsf@gnu.org>
2013/6/24 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:51:20 +0200
>> From: Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 14704@debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> 2013/6/24 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>:
>> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is the 3rd critical package.el bug I discovered within just a week
>> >> or so. Don't you test your code?!
>> >
>> > If you want well-tested code, stay with Emacs official releases. If
>> > you compile from trunk, expect breakages, untested code and potential
>> > data loss. Caveat user.
>>
>> Who would test your code then before releases if not those who compile
>> from trunk?
>
> Each release is preceded by a long pretest period, when we are trying
> to collect usage experiences from as many different platforms and
> users as possible.
>> You developers obviously don't… and what is worse, you apparently do
>> even *care*.
>
> I don't think this is a fair comment.
I know. I was upset by his comment, and I still am, but I should have
taken a deep breath before replying. I meant no offense, and I am
sorry.
>> I am sorry that you do not know about CI, unit testing and software
>> quality, but I do, and thus I am horrified by the neglect and
>> ignorance you demonstrate in developing one of the most important
>> tools of my daily work.
>
> While more testing is always a good thing, some areas in Emacs are
> hard to test.
package.el isn't such an area.
> Please consider coming on board and moving Emacs closer to the CI ideals and testability. TIA.
I am sorry, but I won't, for two reasons: Bazaar, and copyright assignments.
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-24 15:30 bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 15:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 17:51 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 17:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-24 18:26 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:57 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-24 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 20:02 ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-24 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 20:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-24 20:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 20:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 21:19 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-25 2:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 2:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-25 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 15:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-25 6:17 ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-25 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 15:24 ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-25 16:03 ` bug#10304: " Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 18:27 ` bug#10304: display bug (was: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version) Michael Albinus
2013-06-25 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-25 19:13 ` bug#10304: display bug Michael Albinus
2011-12-15 13:51 ` bug#10304: 24.0.92: display but Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2011-12-15 13:58 ` Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2012-01-07 1:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-07 8:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-26 0:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-02 2:36 ` bug#10304: 24.0.92: display bug Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-02 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-02 18:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-02 21:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-01-05 8:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 9:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 9:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 10:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 11:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-05 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-05 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08 5:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-08 5:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08 11:19 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-08 21:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08 21:29 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-08 21:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-13 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-16 15:06 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-14 15:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 15:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 15:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-15 15:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <m3oarmyoiz.fsf@stories.gnus.org>
2014-12-27 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-15 23:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-01-17 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-07 4:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-11 13:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-05-11 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-27 13:20 ` bug#10304: " Michael Albinus
2013-06-27 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-27 18:25 ` Michael Albinus
2013-07-09 10:39 ` Michael Albinus
2013-07-09 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-10 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-10 18:03 ` Michael Albinus
2013-06-24 20:18 ` bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-25 2:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-24 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-24 18:40 ` Sebastian Wiesner [this message]
2013-06-24 17:39 ` Glenn Morris
2013-06-24 17:52 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2013-06-25 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
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