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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232365 Archived-At: On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:15 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora > > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:39:16 +0000 > > Cc: emacs-devel > > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 23:37 Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel > > > On 14/01/2019 17.13, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > > > Not to mention the noise it creates for those of us that occasionall= y > > > work with multiple Emacs versions and the same init files. > > > > This is my main source of annoyance with the warning, thought that ann= oyance did not raise to the level > > of complaining about it in public until now :) > > > > Ditto :) > > I'm questioning the wisdom of adding non-trivial complexity on account > of annoyances that "did not raise to the level of complaining about it > in public". Shouldn't we collect more experience regarding the > current solution before we complicate it more? That makes sense too. To be honest, I have a commented out definition of (package-initialize) in my init which works for me. When I switch to Emacs 26.1 I remember to M-x package-initialize and that solves it for me (because I don't use package.el much). Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora