From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: moving in js
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:14:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm53ofQU75URh1H+oyD4x2Ccv57mx4ngY9deRAhUWsJCV7w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5023F124.50900@easy-emacs.de>
> Single words and symbols also are not balanced expressions IMO.
> When on ba|z
>
> (foo (bar ba|z) quux)
>
> C-M-b would reach |baz
>
> (foo (bar |baz) quux)
>
> i.e, it would do backward-word
No, it's doing backward-sexp. "baz" happens to also be a sexp (an
atomic), and it's not a question of opinion (see below).
> a repeat would do backward-word again, a third would error
>
> Can't see any relation to stipulated move over balanced expression here.
>
> Looks fairly arbitrary.
It's not. In lisp-mode, where this is clearer (but as we have seen it
can and has been generalized to other programming modes), a word and a
symbol are also sexp's. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression:
a sexp can be an atom or a list ( a . b ) where a and b are themselves
sexp's. As you have found, backward-word doesn't error, because it
doesn't care about sexp's. But backward-sexp does :-) , indeed it
*must* error to tell you there are no more sexp's backwards at that
level.
IMO this is one of the best designed features in Emacs, and one many
non-Emacs users envy. When I move and delete with the C-M-* keys, I
get structured editing for free. And (shameless plug) if I add
autopair.el to that, I don't need paredit.el at all. Furthermore,
because Emacs generalizes the sexp concept to other modes via
syntax-tables, structured editing (and autopair) "just work" in
almost every programming mode that defines delimiters.
> CC to help, as it might be of some interest for others to.
of course, I forgot to send my previous message to the list.
--
João Távora
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-10 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-07 19:11 moving in js Andreas Röhler
2012-08-07 20:33 ` Peter Dyballa
2012-08-08 5:37 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-08-08 17:37 ` João Távora
2012-08-09 5:45 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <CALDnm512KSuJw+ZScjnn59x7OZLnWOfyZzLVBe_4CiLqdKTAkA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-09 16:20 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <CALDnm537EEG=6s9KJrqSZN35zBTg=GLcE7OBJy8h=N4zAD03cA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-09 17:19 ` Andreas Röhler
2012-08-10 1:14 ` João Távora [this message]
2012-08-10 6:45 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <CALDnm52urB5ZD7gkDeGE4irOn+J-EWzLVcDfEetZVrf95ZESEA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-10 11:15 ` Andreas Röhler
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