From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 15:08:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <251c030a-ade3-e945-d7a3-77cdbebc1812@yandex.ru> <8fe95ea3-05ad-fa40-54ab-494594348e9f@yandex.ru> <6f0014c2-f119-88f8-f3ac-1cd2575f69f4@yandex.ru> <90c406be-0bc8-f428-7928-461b42d12808@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="124659"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Rudi C , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , Dmitry Gutov To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 16:22:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbPc7-000WI0-FJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 16:22:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbPc6-0005X0-Hd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 10:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbPP7-0005Rh-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 10:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]:35232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbPP6-0002eU-TL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 10:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id a14so3236205ilk.2 for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 07:09:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X281hZ9fSqWnRiI1+U9ncjp8/PQwe96dgfq1B5mv1M0=; b=ctNampXgFNZZfliwYgoFbzfkiHRObs+bXH6ilYLE1qRsMJUi9pWPHYfXFzbas+ex0o YRcrkKneFNFCdeVxZWWlkZQsfkKe0sFxdJpDQcO3ll+AbSTrYY8lZPQcGmtQuv6ioJ77 ebffA2Proih/GZIf/LpvxC0AvUrCZGEcWFhTy7gu42Tk0kUI9LmQqMg/wG+Nxa/m7XNy GS5SF2JZu7KbQnHikofFjeBEFaFtYO4V5tsz2sPFJ4m8D4Cf15UrB1Mxov8oHzSHqs7V QnUWylUuUXhlbhebjYsdxdCiOLj2dkA/QYCKzPVLC9y9xrFlge+ran8B5SozTZLdOHOV vDKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X281hZ9fSqWnRiI1+U9ncjp8/PQwe96dgfq1B5mv1M0=; b=sJ1L0Os/Q6HvpPw92Ym73w98gZcGSGqnzGcDQzXJ/WEltRquDPJElYyg4Uy7+LKGnQ THu0/PSsxSqfhRRk40Y1PWudKcakL0lV1h67lY9Rr++zGZQA9lr3rE56uetwYkwmVR7/ nn/9zJzdsTZJXVWw7pAQl+HQfdayjRaDB0NxQZ6JqBvkdXgpN9xwx+fCesjIVpZQm6cA 8yhYq9GSinL3Cvho/2amMQ6mbTCKsqNx9NPHzSJaT3XmgAgWnmazyHigy75blUXU5ZRY K1D/D4vj1l9TJ3c1ws/S2hTgyaA+nWRXobvMx1cmdjIu7jBOIk7I4m731+LohhlNmRUR Gcmw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533nhM7VSOo56m0oWunRkIfJChVXo4B38IGW8ScgcC+thBM+1ZUQ NBuizTXnRIv4eWky2NWnQ5qgaYAzMTL6uSIFHLo3ghl9 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwdvxnAejwJAd5p0bmwKRyanC2H2RXgp7YajuZ2OZX51OHnbMKUbeVv1GUtYcXWCNhfzDanBkPpux2aPO1m2fQ= X-Received: by 2002:a92:485d:: with SMTP id v90mr3897801ila.125.1589983743850; Wed, 20 May 2020 07:09:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::131; envelope-from=joaotavora@gmail.com; helo=mail-il1-x131.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251051 Archived-At: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:04 PM Stefan Kangas wrot= e: > > course if major modes were in on the play, we could > > reduce the visibility of Eglot even more, maybe just > > reduce it to `eglot-connect` and `eglot-disconnect`, maybe > > call them `start-ide-ing` and `stop-ide-ing` for abstraction. > > I like your thinking above. > > I agree that, if we want users to interact with it, "eglot" is a pretty > hard to understand name. Perhaps "lsp-start" and "lsp-stop" would be > okay here, if that makes sense. It does, to me. IOW it's better than "eglot". But let's not tie ourselves too much into LSP, right? It's a Open Source protocol kinda controlled by M$. We might want to drift to something better thing in the future. Jo=C3=A3o