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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253638 Archived-At: --000000000000a9deb105ac9dec01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:11 PM Robert Pluim wrote: > The alternative is to register an 'Emacs' app, do the hoop jumping, > and stick the various secret tokens in the Emacs sources, but as I > understand it that=CA=BCs expressly forbidden by Google's terms-of-use > (correct me if I=CA=BCm wrong, I haven't read them). > Thanks for the clear explanation. I suppose this will affect mbsync/isync as well. Is it very hard to design a program that periodically does all that "hoop jumping" for me and and writes to ~/.authinfo or to pass(1)'s password store? I=CA=BCm starting to agree with Stefan here: maybe it=CA=BCs time to start = using > a different email provider. > Maybe. But, sorry for the naive question, do you plan to throw the gmail address away? Jo=C3=A3o, who had just gotten mbsync/gnus working decently some months ago --000000000000a9deb105ac9dec01 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:11 PM Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
The alternative is to register an 'Emacs' app, do the hoop jumping,=
and stick the various secret tokens in the Emacs sources, but as I
understand it that=CA=BCs expressly forbidden by Google's terms-of-use<= br> (correct me if I=CA=BCm wrong, I haven't read them).

Thanks for the clear explanation. I suppose this will aff= ect mbsync/isync
as well. Is it very hard to design a program tha= t periodically does
all that "hoop jumping" for me and = and writes to ~/.authinfo or to
pass(1)'s password store= ?

I=CA=BCm starting to agree with Stefan here: maybe it=CA=BCs time to start = using
a different email provider.

Maybe. But,= sorry for the naive question, do you plan to throw
the gmail add= ress away?

Jo=C3=A3o,
who had just = gotten mbsync/gnus working decently some months ago

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