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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:241960 Archived-At: --000000000000560b1a0596c94579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > So much for an unintelligible package :-) Hey, versus 600 lines of a package that plays along with every part of Emacs I can name, yes, it's unintelligible. Which is not to say it isn't great. But I can say that I had a long list of ido hacks myself (for imenu, for completion-at-point, etc). Even SLY in some situations falls back to ido when it doesn't find anything else. Don't knock me, I'm was a fellow IDOer for a long long time. I hope you or someone can bring all that neat stuff to Emacs so it can be shared with other completion frontends. Jo=C3=A3o --000000000000560b1a0596c94579 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> So much for an unintelligible packag= e :-)

Hey, versus 600 lines of a packa= ge that plays along with every part
of Emacs I can name, yes, it&= #39;s unintelligible.=C2=A0

Which is not to s= ay it isn't great.

But I can say that I ha= d a long list of ido hacks myself (for imenu,
for completion-at-p= oint, etc).=C2=A0 Even SLY in some situations falls back
to = ido when it doesn't find anything else.=C2=A0 Don't knock me, I'= ;m was
a fellow IDOer for a long long time. I hope you or so= meone can
bring all that neat stuff=C2=A0 to Emacs so it can= be shared with other
completion frontends.

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