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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::732 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232804 Archived-At: On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 6:54 PM Daniel Colascione wrote= : > > Are you saying that no facilities in Emacs should reserve global > > symbols for their own implementation details? If so I agree, it is bad > > design. > > Yeah. With respect to plists, it's okay to attach public symbols to > private plists, and it's okay to put private symbols on public plists, > but putting public symbols on public plists is creating a bug machine. Hmmm, attach =3D=3D put, right? I do think that putting public symbols on public plists *with package-specific semantics* (public or not) is bad. That's the only nono I see. BTW, CL packages solve this neatly blablabla (we've been through that, I think). -- Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora