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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249553 Archived-At: On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 7:44 PM Dmitry Gutov wrote: > How would that help? Eldoc has a defined interface. If eglot-box could > be based on that, it could just be considered for contribution on its own= . A pretty bad one, as we know. It's much better do deal with it in one place, Emacs, rather then the user complaining to Eglot issue tracker then I have to explain the problem or desired feature is in eldoc, then agree on an interface betweent he two files. In Emacs I just submit a patch to both files and both maintainers look at it. The reason fido-mode was so easy is that icomplete.el and minibuffer.el are in the same repo. I don't find this logic very hard to follow. Rather what I find hard to follow is the "not in core" stance. It seems like you want to protect lsp-mode mode, or not condemn it to irrelevance. That's perfectly fine, mind you: perfectly fine. But exactly how would Eglot in core hurt that? Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora