From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Algorithm in electric-pair--unbalanced-strings-p unsuitable for CC Mode Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 11:54:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20190708100539.GD4529@ACM> <20190708164501.GB5244@ACM> <20190708180551.GD5244@ACM> <20190709095222.GA5230@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dc2037058d3d6306" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="243390"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment_Pit=2DClaudel?= , emacs-devel To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 09 12:59:44 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hknqW-0010zS-Ku for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 12:59:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48688 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hknmA-0007b2-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 06:55:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hknm4-0007XU-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 06:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hknm2-0007jQ-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 06:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io1-xd41.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41]:35534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hknm0-0007bb-8W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 06:55:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io1-xd41.google.com with SMTP id m24so32677852ioo.2 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:54:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=72FyJhXvcosU/ihnxWSmSS4Mj/W+dSbL2CmKgJxWMm0=; b=rGTTyT2bz2MKLyjEfBKWZHgnLXAudlLI4CWzqq2vFkmQITiJpAEzSFb026owsIiqP6 Q1Pfuy2VsAC6vY04t2j3J6oFOCh7bART5mtghDwQLB3FLL6DOFlK57aknZgYm1chydO+ U8dYLvmhEpAxNslUwgVcv5cxUo+yrtD9lYmMAZ66zGBXB0b9+RGereBovQ/UGN94vYZG 58DQ7M0Hc3d/OP0G4GVwk8t129WDdzKdE9Pa6M/gYLNqZr2Lehj2Ma52aSTDgreCasIP LteIxgtFLigWSg+IyO0j/vZs9fBRcDfYFyfBIH5r6E8XhKVTtCrG15psYikPFgrVIoWv WLzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=72FyJhXvcosU/ihnxWSmSS4Mj/W+dSbL2CmKgJxWMm0=; b=Z+eoPb9ocJzy4klnRk6vmM+v5wH9L0M5C9yqMUViUC/Hk4sYvFmcamuhD3ir2eUbxS 3G+O08GQWHyfcMkyhwx9J36IRbeCWJ2/np4eAxsyfFyc6ZVWaPCoy3vQMp2jAJNTfpNZ Uqp9IxW9Hbm7VdSPgfkmuL0cI+Fb0ng9HcfravZGVG8rm6iUt2lSvyTiAnSpCAemRZVA VQt8MQpn5EeSUama51t9A0jHKwttfmJA8xT9awRrim96I7WhJ9oLy1/ne1ad9qKlGQlN qaEeI3rz1EkLpIzS5f/AclNuGk4aYuTRRTObRXuhe0avIzhkOtF8VHOTYilH9feg7yyR cZIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVn23Nl6qEku01J0GjAlsvdxjsAUR1XoTJY3VW4Kzyqz+B6ckBm M+ILQ7k82nNjhQxxrFa2GGZpZQl7LsoeqE+tDT0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwUfGrDfg3uNmM9tpKa2V73Iz49FONSxJRUvoZJmbtQjy1yfJbktNYbTMAyeKPY/e7KigxXx28nOxrYKSXR8Ec= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b214:: with SMTP id b20mr24283306iof.149.1562669691443; Tue, 09 Jul 2019 03:54:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20190709095222.GA5230@ACM> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:238435 Archived-At: --000000000000dc2037058d3d6306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:52 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Jo=C3=A3o. > > > > many, many years. Depending on how it is implemented (certainly how > Alan > > > implemented it) it breaks things in Emacs core and third-party code. > Can we perhaps keep the disparagement a bit more muted, please? > How can this be disparagement? It's a simple statement of fact. If you didn't break things, what did you fix and what are you fixing? Is "break" the word that you associate with disparagement, maybe? I admit it's a word that I hear very often in software engineering, I didn't invent it. Maybe you associate it with clumsiness, like I'm implying you're a doofus breaking things recklessly. I'm not, believe me. But unless you give me a better word that expresses "take action in area A with the consequence that the previous behavior in area B isn't observed any more", I'll have to keep using "break". Jo=C3=A3o --000000000000dc2037058d3d6306 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:52 AM Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
Hello, Jo=C3=A3o.

> > many, many years. Depending on how it is implemented (certainly h= ow Alan
> > implemented it) it breaks things in Emacs core and third-party co= de.
Can we perhaps keep the disparagement a bit more muted, please?

How can this be disparagement? It's a simple s= tatement of fact. If you didn't
break things, what did you fi= x and what are you fixing?=C2=A0 Is "break" the
wo= rd that you associate with disparagement, maybe? I admit it's a word
that I hear very often in software engineering, I didn't invent= it.

Maybe you associate it with clumsiness, = like I'm implying you're a
doofus breaking things re= cklessly. I'm not, believe me. But unless you
give me a = better word that expresses "take action in area A with the
<= div>consequence that the previous behavior in area B isn't observed any=
more", I'll have to keep using "break".<= /div>

Jo=C3=A3o

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