On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:41 PM Philipp Stephani wrote: > Am Sa., 22. Dez. 2018 um 03:46 Uhr schrieb João Távora < > joaotavora@gmail.com>: > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > >> From: Luís Oliveira > > >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 12:02:55 +0000 > > >> Cc: João Távora > > >> > > >> I think I've come across a bug. > > > > > > Doesn't look like a bug to me. > > > > Indeed, it's the behaviour described in the Emacs manual, but the > > motivation is questionable: it says it's useful for shooshing the > > byte-compiler's warnings. Aren't there better alternatives to do this > > instead of imposing this seeming inconsistency? > > The better alternative is to explicitly `require' the library that > defines the variable. > I see the one-argument `defvar' as the variable equivalent to > `declare-function' - it announces that a variable exists without > defining it. (Maybe there should be a `declare-variable' macro to > mirror `declare-function'.) As such, its use should be exceptional; > most libraries should make sure to not have cyclic dependencies and > use plain `require'. > I think in Luís original report there is a `require' of the library where the variable is declared before using it. Unfortunately it only works when it is declared with an initial value. João