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bh=SIeF7xSh1hBlHCIjhxUdqZM0N2CZ0eakxc+WMYmtuY4=; b=RaKn5H1Us9u+Cwq8iEpgd38TlBym950h+JjvzMgDIYCALLUibmf4q++i9KcV3UNX4D YAag3TWIK/ig5TQAaCs6UvGjn+2KWRxr60HN89qgAmKGufF89kMYASQTMsw4fwl5nmRC zoe89Z/ya4gEvcdGpjwYzCVhSg5weOpNT8oxFRXs2CKPFX6TpY+Z/MiBm8JfoL6x5kjM 6fGYwkjOAukHFkD9CV8axdwbHITAzpl7fhPHPHVHz5o8mgO1iUgJnBCehbjjJpbZfw5m bnZQ6z1yURIZ9pYM8K5vhr1zyBhe1YXVf4zaBXQpw/UFpGIupLbAYk+tGJD+t/h2LuQE /SQg== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9csLHfGm52USsl/kBUbr0s/8Cz7egF/ocBehO3D8n8b/6SxipWC qF7oDwlw87MNt+VzFenxYoWMXr99DBkUh14MGXc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350YjPS/LxP3lAYoJWneYdMojJ2Kn3JDvE5iuS/Vz/k73jqgTK8flHLTYGnIPL63872aVJH0d61pSwwDPaUncSSs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:e0ca:b0:187:773a:3927 with SMTP id a10-20020a056870e0ca00b00187773a3927mr1083913oab.5.1681321304380; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83wn2h5825.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259792 Archived-At: On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora > > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 18:14:28 +0100 > > Cc: "Philip K." , Stefan Monnier , 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, > > Lars Ingebrigtsen > > > > Please, in normal non-shouting case, explain to me how you think that t= he behavior of an existing > > command can be changed with "completely separate code". > > I already did: either (1) add a prefix argument to an existing > command, which will then trigger the new behavior, or (2) add a > separate command. We're just going in circles. Those ideas don't solve this bug, as hinted by the fact that noone is coming up with the patches you want. I guess people with `(package-install 'eglot)` in their configs will just have to cope with whatever comes of this. As for me, I've put too way too much time and effort into this already, so good luck to all.