From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 42777@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Subject: bug#42777: 28.0.50; Obsolete eldoc-message function used in CEDET
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 19:46:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm534Ju096-hZdd+_V9o3djKoiCCoqUFsh-tZOt3b6NoQfg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1rkti2e.fsf@gnus.org>
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 14:38 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Maybe just fixing the later is enough. Because other than that, I feel
> > the whole of CEDET has been pretty obsolete, de facto, for a while
> > now.
>
> This is somewhat off-topic, but I wonder why. I mean, I don't use it
> myself, but I've tested it a bit now and then when fixing compilation
> bugs and stuff, and it seems very cool. It does a lot of what the
> now-very-popular LSP stuff does, but still nobody seems to give CEDET
> any love these days...
CEDET was promising, I followed it closely around 2007-2011 but it never
delivered, IME. I remember being very frustrated by the inability to set up
a simple "find the definition". Some awkward thing called "senator" had to
be built, I think. Many (re)inventions there, as there were elsewhere (i.e.
SLIME): Emacs simply didn't have the infrastructure of Eldoc, Xref,
Flymake, etc that it does now.
Also it suffers from the problem of not being LSP :) CEDET is an
Emacs-specific protocol and an Emacs-specific toolkit to develop
language-specific tools that speak that protocol. LSP is an editor agnostic
and language agnostic protocol only. A very clever idea. You need
relatively little effort on both sides to get something really useful
going. And any effort you spend on one side is worth n-fold on the other
side. That is its winning formula.
João
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-09 15:23 bug#42777: 28.0.50; Obsolete eldoc-message function used in CEDET Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-28 17:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-28 22:32 ` João Távora
2020-08-30 13:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-30 13:54 ` João Távora
2020-08-30 13:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-30 14:10 ` João Távora
2020-08-30 14:23 ` João Távora
2020-08-30 14:56 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-30 15:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-30 16:00 ` João Távora
2020-08-30 16:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-30 19:22 ` João Távora
2020-09-01 14:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-01 18:22 ` João Távora
2020-09-01 18:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-01 23:43 ` João Távora
2020-09-02 13:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-02 18:46 ` João Távora [this message]
2020-09-04 2:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-06 15:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-30 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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