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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Redundant (harmful) duplication of run-hooks in define-globalized-minor-mode [patch]
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:17:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm53-mNW+KcEMQsd9e-P==St9WQTagnJe8vGJNf9_vvykJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130115140855.GA3430@acm.acm>

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:

> I think that's true.  My problem is that font-lock-mode is being called
> too soon, before the mode has been fully set up by the major mode hook.

Sorry to hijack, but I have a similiar problem in autopair and yasnippet. My
problem is that I sometimes want the minor modes never to be called at all
depending on the major-mode setup.

While the major-mode hook has a chance to disable them with (xxx-mode -1),
there's no way to use the major-mode's hook to prevent a globalized minor mode
from ever being activated in the buffer.

This is a inneficient and cumbersome for these cases:

* autopair-minor-mode crashes the system when activated with sldb-minor-mode, I
  use autopair-mode-on for this and hardcode the sldb reference there. It also
  does a lot of useless setup of keybindings etc...

* yas-minor-mode jit-loads snippets for the major mode when invoked. If its
  turned off immediately after, it loaded them too soon.

before emacs 24, I used to use xxx-dont-turn-on variables set in major mode hook
and read in the xxx-mode-on function, but I agree that isn't particularly pretty
too.

Thanks,
--
João Távora



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-17 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-13 19:28 Redundant (harmful) duplication of run-hooks in define-globalized-minor-mode Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-13 20:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-01-14 16:30 ` Redundant (harmful) duplication of run-hooks in define-globalized-minor-mode [patch] Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-14 16:52   ` emacs24/auctex bug Camm Maguire
2013-01-14 23:58     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-15  2:12   ` Redundant (harmful) duplication of run-hooks in define-globalized-minor-mode [patch] Stefan Monnier
2013-01-15 14:08     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-17 13:17       ` João Távora [this message]
2013-01-17 17:51         ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-17 18:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-18 12:07             ` João Távora
2013-01-18 17:09             ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-31 11:04             ` Redundant (harmful) duplication of run-hooks in define-globalized-minor-mode [patch-2] Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-31 14:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-01 15:44                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-01 16:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-01 19:53                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-01 20:09                       ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-01 20:15                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-01 23:17                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-01 23:16                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-03 22:14                         ` Alan Mackenzie

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