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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Distinguishing `consp` and `functionp`
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:34:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm52wqN_TT7F+pPoMODPLJtNHHb4um-bp17X0VhsB53uv7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmssods3p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 4:28 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> > I don't think there is much space for philosophy or debate in noting
> > for example, that a list as lambda won't get byte-compiled like a
> > true lambda form.
> >
> > (byte-compile '(let ((bla (lambda () (+ 42 42))))
> >                  (funcall bla))) ;; -> (byte-code "\300\211 \207" [#[0
> > "\300\207" [84] 1]] 2)
> >
> >
> > (byte-compile '(let ((bla '(lambda () (+ 42 42))))
> >                  (funcall bla)));; -> (byte-code "\300 \207" [(lambda
> > nil (+ 42 42))] 1)
>
> While it's in the vicinity, this is not directly related to my patch.

I know, your patch doesn't address this.  But if I understand
correctly it makes at least functionp return nil for the second one.
Or at least makes way for it.  And that's a plus in my book.

>
> >>     commit 9228fd983bb9e71d44d406433a46495b22640801
> >>     Author: Marten Lienen <marten.lienen@gmail.com>
> >>     Date:   Mon Jan 22 11:08:44 2024 +0100
> >>
> >>         * yasnippel.el (yas-buffer-local-condition): Check functionp before consp to allow closures
> [...]
> > Stefan's patch moves us in the right direction if just for the guidance
> > it gives to ignorant Lispers like the one who introduced that bug circa 2009.
>
> FWIW, the bug fixed by the above commit was introduced a few days
> earlier by yours truly,

Alright.  I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't passing lists as lambdas
around in that extension.  I used to do that, and saw many fall prety
to this, when their lisps allow it.  The result is harder to debug code
and harder to instrument.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-29 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25 23:15 Distinguishing `consp` and `functionp` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26  0:00 ` Adam Porter
2024-01-26  0:24   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26  7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 19:22   ` João Távora
2024-01-26 21:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26 21:50       ` João Távora
2024-01-26 23:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27  0:22           ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-27 11:47             ` João Távora
2024-01-27 13:20             ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 11:53           ` João Távora
2024-01-28  3:03           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 21:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 12:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:41           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:54             ` João Távora
2024-01-29 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 16:25                 ` João Távora
2024-01-29 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 16:17               ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-29 16:34                 ` João Távora
2024-02-01  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 16:28               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 16:34                 ` João Távora [this message]
2024-01-29 20:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30  8:58                     ` João Távora
2024-01-30 12:54                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30 22:24                         ` João Távora
2024-01-30 23:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30 23:43                             ` João Távora
2024-01-31  0:22                               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-31  0:40                                 ` João Távora
2024-01-31  3:37                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-31 10:51                                     ` João Távora
2024-01-31 18:34                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 17:09             ` Yuri Khan
2024-02-01  3:49             ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-30  3:58     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-27 11:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-27 14:25   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27 23:01     ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28  0:00       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28  6:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 17:26         ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28 17:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 19:42             ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28 20:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28 18:38           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27 13:14 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 14:41   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28  1:56     ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 20:55     ` Stefan Kangas

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