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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313538 Archived-At: On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:59=E2=80=AFAM Philip Kaludercic wrote: the "in my book", I know there is disagreement there, it is just > that my main objection "Arbitrary names are difficult to memorise and > communicate" would be sufficiently resolved by adding these kinds of > aliases. Every name is arbitrary. Sausurre reminded us of that 100 years ago, the Greeks knew it much earlier [1] . In practice, please remember that reaming things and introducing aliases _also_ has a cost in terms of brain stress (maybe not your brain, granted). [1] https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/semi.1989.75.1-2.63/html