From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 56407@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#56407: 29.0.50; desktop.el shouldn't be saving/restoring eglot--managed-mode, which is not for interactive use
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 14:19:43 +0100 [thread overview]
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 2:12 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 13:59:51 +0100
> > Cc: 56407@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > That's okay: it's desktop.el's job to know about some implementation
> > details. Just look at how much it knows about what the various modes
> > and variables do in Emacs.
> >
> > Wait, you're saying it's "okay" to have to do a commit to Emacs's repo
> > everytime someone makes a third-party package that has a minor mode
> > that needs special handling? Or everytime someone changes the name
> > or shape of a minor mode?
>
> eglot is not a third-party package. We intended to add it to core, I
> think?
>
Indeed we do. But it's not yet, because I've been so very busy.
But if what I suggest isn't to your liking, you can always tell users
> to customize desktop-minor-mode-table by themselves. Or do what you
> didn't want to do: cause desktop.el to be autoloaded by eglot.
>
Yes, those are alternatives. But not as good.
> > But we do have that mechanism. It's called symbol properties and it's a
> nice
> > feature of lisp. So let's use it, please.
>
> If you insist. But then don't come back crying when this is broken by
> some change in desktop.el that the "loosely coupled packages" didn't
> pick up.
>
Thanks. I can't vouch for my future emotions, but I also can't see how
this mechanism, which I've used and seen used so often, could fail
in such ways.
I'll prepare a patch.
João
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-05 19:34 bug#56407: 29.0.50; desktop.el shouldn't be saving/restoring eglot--managed-mode, which is not for interactive use João Távora
2022-07-05 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-05 19:53 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 2:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 8:12 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 11:30 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 11:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-06 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 12:59 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 13:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 13:19 ` João Távora [this message]
2022-07-06 13:23 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 13:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-06 13:47 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 13:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-06 13:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-06 13:59 ` João Távora
2022-07-05 22:52 ` João Távora
2022-07-06 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-06 8:27 ` João Távora
2022-07-05 19:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-05 19:56 ` João Távora
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