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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301760 Archived-At: --00000000000063c8d305f057e7f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 2:57 PM Juanma Barranquero wrote= : > I don't think we've added use-package to the Emacs core with the hope tha= t > people will use it less than they do ;-) > Yeah, I know. But maybe we didn't quite consider the ~30 commands or so that it provides to do things already possible with well-understood primitives that have existed forever. I don't have a problem with people using it, just as I don't have a problem with people using Magit, which I also don't. It's just I plan to kindly ask the potential bug-reporter to show his minimal configuration in terms of stuff I can unequivocally understand the semantics of. Jo=C3=A3o --00000000000063c8d305f057e7f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 2:57 PM Juanma Ba= rranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> = wrote:
I don't think we've added use-package to the Emacs core with th= e hope that people will use it less than they do ;-)

Yeah, I know.=C2=A0 But maybe we didn't quite= consider the ~30
commands or so that it provides to do thin= gs already possible
with well-understood primitives that have exi= sted forever.

I don't have a problem with peop= le using it, just as I don't have
a problem with people using= Magit, which I also don't.=C2=A0 It's just
I plan t= o kindly ask the potential bug-reporter to show his minimal
c= onfiguration in terms of stuff I can unequivocally understand
the= semantics of.

Jo=C3=A3o
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