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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275932 Archived-At: On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:09 PM Richard Stallman wrote: > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > So No Wayman was correct: Emacs doesn't like that ATM, the arithmetic > > function `-' is not read as such any more in the above case. > > It looks like "-" as a shorthand prefix should not rename `-'. I can > imagine various ways to fix this, some more general and some less > general. Yes, me too. And they would need to be put in place if we want to import Magnar Sveen's dash.el library (which uses that prefix), or any of the many libraries that depend on dash.el into Emacs, GNU Elpa or non-GNU Elpa. Jo=C3=A3o