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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOn Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 21:08 Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora w= rote: > . >> > >> > If this change can't go into emacs-29, I think it's better to add >> > an M-x eglot-update to eglot.el. >> >> That's the worst of all worlds. >> > > Why? It's the safest option. Absolutely no package.el regression possible= , > and doesn't solve a problem where you don't think I've exists. > Sorry, I meant to write "where you don't think one exists". > >> What is the problem with the two possible solutions I suggested? >> > > They are incongruent and not very user friendly IMO. > Admittedly, eglot-update is also incongruent, of course, but at least that problem is confined to a single package. Jo=C3=A3o > --000000000000501c3705f9154c72 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LOn Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 21:08 Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora= <joaotavora@gmail.com> w= rote:
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> If this change can't go into emacs-29, I think it's better to = add
> an M-x eglot-update to eglot.el.

That's the worst of all worlds.

Why? It's the safest option. Absolut= ely no package.el regression possible, and doesn't solve a problem wher= e you don't think I've exists.

Sorry, I meant to write "where= you don't think one exists".

What is the problem with the two possible solutions I suggested?

They are in= congruent and not very user friendly IMO.

Admittedly, eglot-update is also= incongruent, of course, but at least that problem is confined to a single = package.

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