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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds?
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 17:12:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm51xsOTj-2hpLgkOCfSXCbxJpuEQWqKxD8RRU==E04DyEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v88n3515.fsf@localhost>

On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 5:02 PM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > OK, what thing does `org-assert-version` assert and what is one concrete
> > example of a breakage.  Can this unexpected breakage exist if someone
> > has never ever installed Org mode from ELPA?
>
> The assertion is (equal (org-release) ,(org-release)) - assert run-time
> and compile-time versions of Org equal.

OK.  So AFAIU org-assert-version macro is itself a tool that you use to
"check sanity" in the face of the maroexpansion-site recompilation
problems posed by _other_ macros and their expansions.

So it seems to follow that if _those_ problems cause by _other macros_
somehow were solved, then the org-assert-version macro wouldn't be
needed, or at least wouldn't be needed for this job.

> My statement about "the idea will not work" was referring to the
> `org-assert-version' macro. If we wrap calls to `org-assert-version'
> into a function, only the file defining that function will be used to
> derive compile-time Org version.

This is the "XY problem" situation.  org-assert-version is solving a given
problem, it's not useful to consider it as part of the problem itself.

João



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-24 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-22 17:27 Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? T.V Raman
2023-12-23 17:58 ` João Távora
2023-12-23 18:06   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-23 18:44     ` João Távora
2023-12-24 11:50       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 14:13         ` João Távora
2023-12-24 14:48           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 16:32             ` João Távora
2023-12-24 16:36               ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 17:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:04               ` João Távora
2023-12-24 17:16                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:48                   ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:13                     ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:13                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 23:11                       ` João Távora
2023-12-25 11:26                         ` &allow-other-keys + &rest body in cl-defmacro (was: Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds?) Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 12:09                           ` João Távora
2023-12-25 12:21                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:00                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 13:58                         ` Permanently fix org versioning breakage during builds? Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 17:42                           ` João Távora
2023-12-25 18:24                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:05               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:12                 ` João Távora [this message]
2023-12-24 17:18                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:24                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:54                       ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:10                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:16                           ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:23                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:56                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 14:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 23:14             ` João Távora
2023-12-24  2:43     ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24  6:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 16:29         ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 16:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 11:00       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 12:32         ` Po Lu
2023-12-24 12:50           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 12:57             ` Po Lu
2023-12-24 14:11             ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 14:51               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 14:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 16:59                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 17:26                     ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 17:44                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:01                         ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:12                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:16                             ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:25                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:53                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:23                               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 18:45                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:11                         ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:17                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 19:31                             ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 18:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:56                       ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:50                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 18:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 19:05                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 23:23                       ` João Távora
2023-12-24 19:16                     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 19:24                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 16:32               ` T.V Raman
2023-12-24 16:39                 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 16:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 17:05                     ` João Távora
2023-12-24 18:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:59             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 19:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:02                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-25 20:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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