From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2023 16:23:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87a5zj2vfo.fsf@gmail.com> <835ya6onmz.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz4exw9c.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19816"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 62720@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 08 17:40:09 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfg-0004zP-DW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 17:40:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfV-0000eD-Bd; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfS-0000dI-Vc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1plAfS-0002pJ-NL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plAOA-0006q6-GM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2023 15:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62720 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62720-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62720.168096728226243 (code B ref 62720); Sat, 08 Apr 2023 15:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62720) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Apr 2023 15:21:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59323 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plANW-0006pD-DD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:21:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oa1-f50.google.com ([209.85.160.50]:36802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1plANV-0006p1-0e for 62720@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oa1-f50.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-1841c57c221so3732658fac.3 for <62720@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 08:21:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1680967275; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=9SZCpIxszP0h41gxB76Njnk4ggyLVaSn+egfRtFyWNE=; b=Nvo7OS2t5KdgfiQtuc9FqkG5bN1oBsPiBuBAjLclSfoLRWydHCWBUPm2L7V7My+mo9 CofBRHFDuHZtjf5/v852T4Ku+4sR7gOuIdeoWFSTct7JCiRUjHFNNx26vhx4VqXQqDF5 ekRgKNGhM0K72o9/A2QqM4LhvjHAqxrxsCQB7LWY+oUoxeeFKcKCBoPIE8pBC07jmPKT qZHhqo1g9Lv0/WEyN6J3Dyp6qLvzhos42UH+XM310MBw24WvvyWQnvtcX8Q9jYrEm0bZ 0UN/grBWv+OUzrerXcxlvmfnv41w2Jj82f5AMUkoUHAs7uNRse9tdiDDa/dDUWlKclQ8 IAlA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1680967275; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9SZCpIxszP0h41gxB76Njnk4ggyLVaSn+egfRtFyWNE=; b=ht5bTzqSafQKQbYpVI6sDLVr3LAzc4QzBMPw+eJ3kD1YCR5ziuAIAmL4O9TV1zeX3X KaertFUCF4a7resn8L6DpNwIppNn29nZCxNaISCXo6Q6gBFRdc/SGzl4C8LcBL9XODKd Y3oAh2N1MaajAUFfoP9XaWDrYvRHw5tRltJdZ2G7fLPDZw+h6PoIgHNN7A8+E3Liv+Xo I1m6amBNg5qe7h5mQz/0rVM97NNMIhZGZxBXvD3FMQ+atE8f+qIBKlCaLRE/EAJQ4Prc /v9R2HtsDFQzc3yUcueGlHfSSVH9I8bzs1I6vOJZK3smikab+tYM+een+uRIQ1pPP5Y3 Kgiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9cIXjzPgPHfXraCjzsH/h9BsKNnvoExFSm2PqyF2qoOFzv1VMs5 doklgeP8EBzSyVpDl17UfIE2DWXcZ/blss0hXYs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350bBoPg6nCYFWFSB+uc9H0iVwJgV/WNknVz4Efa3o08vsaEt4RBw8wJqWWNBEqni/pcaNGAX+zp81ZbE2oRXmkw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:d608:b0:17d:7221:d80c with SMTP id a8-20020a056870d60800b0017d7221d80cmr1104832oaq.5.1680967275361; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 08:21:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87cz4exw9c.fsf@localhost> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259479 Archived-At: On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 3:49=E2=80=AFPM Ihor Radchenko = wrote: > > Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > > > Alternatively, there could be some kind of 'package-bugfixes' non-:core > > package in elpa.git that adds this new command. Asking people to instal= l > > that package first is still easier than guiding then through that odd > > workflow. > > I think that adding this into compat.el could be also justified. > With compat.el being ELPA dependency. But compat.el is not :core right? So Eglot cannot depend on it. Also I think that's a bit beyond the purpose of compat, though I don't oppose it. I really think package.el, like other package managers, should learn to update itself. It should be a :core ELPA package itself. But then that also requires this bug to be fixed. Jo=C3=A3o