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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310247 Archived-At: On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 9:23=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Agreed on both counts. I'm just saying that if we decide to have a > slightly less ideal solution, we can. Having built-in support for > Clojure is more important than having an ideal solution for that. Fully agree. Let's give the NonGNU modes time do ponder and if it doesn't work out, I think a from-scratch solution is the way to go. If it comes to that, I can help develop the minimal prototype I presented into something with decent fontification and possibly also interoperation with heavier packages like CIDER (with or without that package's cooperation). > > By the way, do we have a feature that can autoload major modes > > that are in GNU ELPA? I think one is needed. > > What do you mean by "autoload major modes that are in GNU ELPA"? > Emacs will autoload any mode which is installed on the local computer, > either as part of Emacs or downloaded and installed via package.el. > If you meant something else, please elaborate. If I had to guess, I think Richard means something similar to what Philip was suggesting, something that could be described as perhaps be described as autoinstall (from GNU ELPA). Jo=C3=A3o