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Thu, 20 Apr 2023 07:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260336 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:56=E2=80=AFPM Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:39=E2=80=AFPM Dmitry Gutov w= rote: > > > The reasons for me to be less hopeful: > > > > - We seem to be unable to come to any agreement here. :-D > > > > Joao's approval for the above list would go a long way. > > First of all, thank you Dmitry for making such an extensive > and detailed summary of the simualtion. It's really > impressive. > > What you say about a fixed package-update obviating the need > for eglot-update is totally true. In fact I proposed a fixed > package-update much much earlier in this thread. If you > manage to do that, then I'm more than happy to remove > eglot-update. Whoops, sorry, made a thinko. package-update _doesn't_ really obviate the need for eglot-update, because it won't be callable in Emacs 26/27/28, and eglot-update will. ...unless package.el itself becomes a :core package and self-updates through ELPA, which I think is being proposed around here somewhere. Could happen in master (and leave Emacs's 29 version untouched). So for the moment eglot-update is my best out. Jo=C3=A3o