From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Code for cond*
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 10:42:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm51H-3vPJLEm40YbX5K559O7mRTxeXg5hG0no73y2Wu4gw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp1ttnave7z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 3:44 PM Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org> wrote:
> apologies if it was discussed already, wanted to ask: what is the reason
> for some of these cond* clauses to keep the binding in effect outside
> the clause itself and for the whole cond* construct? At first glance it
> doesn't look very idiomatic in Lisp terms to me.
I think I asked the same, and Drew Adams and Adam Porter also
raised this point:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-12/msg00554.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-12/msg00618.html
and I'm not sure we eventually clarified it. Apologies if I missed
some email addressing it as I'm not following this discussion in
detail.
Also, since cond* does a strict subset of what pcase does, has any
thought been given to implementing 'cond*' _on top_ of 'pcase', like
some systems define 'cond' in terms of 'if' (or vice versa)?
Not meant as gratuitous provocation, really. I think it'd have advantages:
* presumably every cond* feature can be supported (if indeed I'm right
about the "strict subset")
* it would probably save a lot of repeated code
* it would make it easy for those who can already read pcase
to just macroexpand the cond* form and see what it is actually
doing underneath.
So could actually facilitate the adoption path for 'cond*' (as
questionable as that path may still be, at least for some parties).
João
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-19 10:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-18 3:37 Code for cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-18 4:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-20 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 12:37 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 19:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-27 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-18 15:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-01-19 10:42 ` João Távora [this message]
2024-01-21 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-21 20:05 ` Adam Porter
2024-01-22 5:32 ` tomas
2024-01-23 13:39 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 6:02 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 9:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-24 10:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 11:30 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 12:08 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 12:09 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 12:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 12:33 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 13:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 13:52 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 14:31 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-27 3:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 14:07 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 14:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 14:34 ` Po Lu
2024-01-24 14:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 14:47 ` João Távora
2024-01-24 15:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 16:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-24 16:34 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 9:06 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 9:55 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 11:29 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 12:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 13:32 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 14:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 13:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 13:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 15:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 15:33 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 16:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 15:40 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 10:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 11:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 12:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24 12:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 9:10 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 11:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 13:21 ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 13:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 23:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-20 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-23 18:10 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-24 4:49 ` JD Smith
2024-01-24 9:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-24 15:29 ` JD Smith
2024-01-24 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24 16:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24 16:20 ` JD Smith
2024-01-24 17:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24 16:35 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-01-24 16:30 ` Drew Adams
2024-02-01 8:56 ` Madhu
2024-02-01 22:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-25 3:16 ` Madhu
2024-01-25 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-25 15:17 ` JD Smith
2024-01-25 15:37 ` JD Smith
2024-01-25 15:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 16:00 ` JD Smith
2024-01-25 16:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-25 16:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-01-25 16:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-25 16:33 ` JD Smith
2024-01-29 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-30 3:59 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-30 13:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 4:16 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-31 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-31 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-03 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-03 6:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-03 6:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-02-04 4:46 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-04 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-04 4:46 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-04 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-13 0:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-13 2:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-14 11:16 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-14 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-22 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-22 4:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-25 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-29 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-29 18:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-29 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-13 0:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-23 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-25 14:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-25 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-25 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 17:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-25 17:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-02-25 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-25 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-27 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-24 12:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24 14:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-24 16:25 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-25 14:01 ` Code for cond* - cond*-match, cond*-subpat and backtrack-aliases Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-29 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 12:16 ` JD Smith
2024-02-01 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-01 14:54 ` JD Smith
2024-02-04 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 8:54 ` Andreas Schwab
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