From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 23:41:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <831r59kyhf.fsf@gnu.org> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39882"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Phil Sainty , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 02 00:42:54 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWRF0-000ABO-6f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 00:42:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47624 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWREz-00044s-2x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWRE6-0003Jc-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x52f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f]:40683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWRE0-0000Cm-UT; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 18:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id h3so47359pgb.7; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 15:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wA5ZBCMFV6+u89xYTAxQspRokp1ADFFysGYqnOSfycg=; b=Rg8rdWKJbztPER8Q423kz5BOleOoeTcZskJyz3Z9CJnNEu1/fsTzQ4QndwRkGv8gQ1 cc4n1IFyOcNVDpgJ09ydlrqRW3zQkit8L5IpIVOaLzYlV+t5w130q+5P/g+aQc32pT8G oeulOW3/YYpM7Rp6TpgWiG8SN8rcTBYVjZy/8rSfL/RthOeLV7QcAIxy6nMz9am1L0y4 7dwqAO7GJIijzp6nRC6h8Y56SbafO2ZA8tAMTPVeGYoMfqr9Y4BPRPRIv9luf9Ge78fs 8LmHYoytu1XVR0BWRxUFZJYPlpDpWu3/K8IHnJ+UVsJEgG40wik1NFIHfyIsSv/5LUQl x8CA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wA5ZBCMFV6+u89xYTAxQspRokp1ADFFysGYqnOSfycg=; b=chNJQE/JJdlPhEEJgSwIzBmjj3M9EPA+hA7+Dr5EUeiJ3iktRcI6is5/MixJ6R4W/Q 5GaQOyBeXbfPz5cfBIwUk1waxMhACZPs8k7h33HFmXThy0oCh9NIOGiqZsILAu3b5Sv7 5+/mlaa+hvJm21KFd90SNzEJrijmwKrxScA/DOZpu3YgO6Uudjs9N7X8iutTtHo0kQLE jy1Yz+ts0DRgVOGg7mhUjEgBOc1OAEUw+qEJxY5O6IZRMTynbLUsXrQcWICrs7LwH7Qd 35sr+hkm8tUo4BWTffOLUmhw9aRNpiKwnxQtkOe4fJLDMBZAdvMEQTn3gvbyKckNW7Yk MznQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533CyArKQezJktgp7yoO69OKRQTjlfHGq8EFBQxorSFTRVvZDfXB l4c2jTtgeFI0uq7Xihy5fEvjOAVFWRqxnY/XJxH7bOT8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzIn1TKpdmQXDON16ZmDeJnLOZfVwKBcId8wcmG8suGfFbKUxYNYT/XweHVB8eQY0wKD6byzp/J3dXy2C0c5pQ= X-Received: by 2002:a62:7f01:0:b0:43c:ecef:98dd with SMTP id a1-20020a627f01000000b0043cecef98ddmr12673759pfd.50.1633128109466; Fri, 01 Oct 2021 15:41:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f; envelope-from=joaotavora@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276018 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 11:38 PM Richard Stallman wrote: > > 2. Something analogous to abbrev which recognises when someone > > starts typing a symbol with one of the configured short > > prefixes, and expands it to be the full name (but per (1) > > visually displayed as the short form that they typed). > > I think #2 might be a good idea, but #1 would lead to horrible > confusion. If the screen does not match the buffer, that is chaos. #2 already exists. It is C-M-i (aka M-x completion-at-point). Jo=C3=A3o