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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255846 Archived-At: --000000000000e2a43505af6b0072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:15 AM Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > following recent discussions I've started toying with what I've pushed > on > scratch/modern-mode. > > What some find modern, some will find old. What some find old, some > will find modern. What was once modern will become old again, and > what was old again will become modern. > > A different name would be more appropriate Yup, this is really obvious to me, too (*) I seem to remember that other packages don't have a lot of problems naming some features "fancy". Does "fancy" have a negative connotation? Maybe it does, as does e.g. "baroque". Both terms indicate an "elaboration" or an "amplification" beyond some essential state, which would be Emacs -Q, I guess. fancy-mode? rich-mode? amplified-mode? ornate-mode? Why not just andrea-mode? Jo=C3=A3o * though "modernism" is itself considered a style, reasonably well defined within the 20th century, but that doesn't matter, unless we are purposely trying to emulate that style in Emacs, which I don't think we are. On a tangent, Emacs defaults themselves could even be seen as modernist already, form mostly follows function, rejects most ornament, etc etc --000000000000e2a43505af6b0072 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:15 AM Alfred M. Szmidt <ams@gnu.org> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0following recent discussions I'= ve started toying with what I've pushed on
=C2=A0 =C2=A0scratch/modern-mode.

What some find modern, some will find old.=C2=A0 What some find old, some will find modern.=C2=A0 What was once modern will become old again, and
what was old again will become modern.

A different name would be more appropriate

= Yup, this is really obvious to me, too (*)=C2=A0 I seem to remember that
other packages don't have a lot of problems naming some
features "fancy".=C2=A0 Does "= fancy" have a negative connotation?
Ma= ybe it does, as does e.g. "baroque".=C2=A0 Both terms indicate
an "elaboration" or an "a= mplification" beyond some essential
st= ate, which would be Emacs -Q, I guess.

=
fancy-mode? rich-mode? amplified-mode? orn= ate-mode? Why not
just andrea-mode?

Jo= =C3=A3o

* though &q= uot;modernism" is itself considered a style, reasonably
well= defined within the 20th century, but that doesn't matter,
unless we are purposely trying to emulate that style in Emacs,
which I don't think we are. On a tangent, Emacs defaults
themselves could even be seen as modernist already, form
mo= stly follows function, rejects most ornament, etc etc
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