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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276436 Archived-At: --0000000000000d1a8705cdaef55d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 1:46 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Yes, but if I reach that buffer from a query for s-foo, which was > > in the completions list, and then decide, from there, that I want > > s-bar instead, I'll be confused if it isn't in the completion list. > > Yes, shorthands make life a bit more complex. > I don't think there's much we can do about that. > We can _not_ list shorthands in lists of symbols ;-) Taking SLIME/SLY's cue at that, where people actually use these things and they aren't all that complex. 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On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 1:46 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> Yes, but if I re= ach that buffer from a query for s-foo, which was
> in the completions list, and then decide, from there, that I want
> s-bar instead, I'll be confused if it isn't in the completion = list.

Yes, shorthands make life a bit more complex.
I don't think there's much we can do about that.

We can _not_ list shorthands in lists of symbols ;-)

Taking SLIME/SLY's cue at that, where people actua= lly use
these things and they aren't all that complex.

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