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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309457 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:15=E2=80=AFPM Danny Freeman wrote: > I would once again like to ask, who is asking for this? Noone. Noone asked that clojure stuff be forked or anything like that. Just the core maintainers and the leader of the FSF project thought it would be good if the flagship FSF project Emacs had some clojure support under its umbrella, and invited your project to come on board. Many third-party projects that benefit from the incalculable amount of work put in by FSF's developers and volunteers who have signed CAs throughout almost 4 decades would find this invitation a privilege, maybe in recognition that united we stand, divided we fall. But noone, absolutely noone, can force you or coerce you to accept the invitation or even stand in the way if you or Bozidhar want to pursue other paths. And noone has done that. So no need for persecutory delusions that the FSF secret police is going to extort CAs from your developers to fork and undermine your project. Remember that NonGNU Elpa was created by Emacs devs just to service projects like yours. And your original request has been serviced already, free of charge. Jo=C3=A3o