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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305502 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 1:16=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora > > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 13:00:23 +0100 > > Cc: arne_bab@web.de, jporterbugs@gmail.com, dmitry@gutov.dev, > > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > Thank you for you efforts anyway. > > I cannot thank you, unfortunately. Not in this discussion. I'm > deeply hurt by your conduct. I spent a lot of hours in this discussion, conducted experiments, proposed almost countless patches, interviewed people, etc. So I don't understand but that's OK, can't argue feelings. I'm very sorry I hurt you somehow, is all I can say. Jo=C3=A3o