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bh=73ZtIKucndUTVjqv3HW0ZsYnozU9Q1MMA+CCJFr8SEY=; b=UYQ8H8w4ugcxXmB2AE0czvsvqeOJocL7mSycnXZemf5wVmdYwXx9mpCetjhPFzqdJz 5mtoxL9wTtS1WfZqB6UZGc2CBWMy5P0Tug8A9ANiX/S52Vht3bgNpycoLFh1kGYfu/89 scgyB5jPpXlc/Av/Iwfju+qS/wJ36U/rB2sdNjkiDAH81CFNW6iFX6Jd/i0qEl1t5gCn peqgNYtfZXqnLNpSJCRp2yJkXL1hNRMB5dHV40uLoPpDfziQm+gLwI3aaVBxaAxPuQB/ 3PKP5IHAaztyNvYFACWqsunZcDDB26+ErG9BVP+A8zR+TEV42peqI4KxyS7SLrEHj1aL hy+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9ceXILtFczOvmbURRR2xUHpJxMMe7cVqfFWPdWibnptCm5K6P9v vTlksUor3biEGedGafnlzcMaGibxrNRJbJLgjek= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350ZKSz/R2AqnCPctnqSJzymdFzSH+mjaGEfQAPwEYFJwQ+jVxlUw8hJRCMmR3elDhASN98sEnKWTSBEUBNOwLTc= X-Received: by 2002:aca:df09:0:b0:38c:174:5ff6 with SMTP id w9-20020acadf09000000b0038c01745ff6mr2090607oig.2.1681925240306; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 10:27:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83wn277r5p.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260285 Archived-At: On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 5:50=E2=80=AFPM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > This just doesn't make any sense to me. Can't you understand that othe= r > > maintainers also value stability for their packages? > > Of course I can. But once again: if Eglot 1.14 is not stable enough, Stable enough for whom, or for what? Stability is quantity in a spectrum. I think Emacs releases should come with the most well tested code. No program is perfect. Eglot 1.14 is stable, but it's not _as_ stable as Eglo= t 1.12 because the latter has seen more testing? So different users and different use cases will accept different things. > > It's certainly NOT about "not wanting to invest the effort". That effo= rt > > would amount to forking Eglot in its feature set so that effort would b= e > > a disservice to everybody. > > No, it doesn't require any forks. It requires more cautious > introduction of new features into Eglot on master. And yes, it's > extra effort. But IMNSHO, users will benefit, so in my book it's > worth it. AFAICT you suggest a different eglot.el in Emacs 29 which has the same features as eglot.el in Emacs master, but without needing the dependencies that the master version can enjoy. That's a fork if I've ever seen one. Jo=C3=A3o